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    Quote Originally Posted by Porn Master View Post
    Vlatko Vukovic are you buddist?
    Yes bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    My paternal line is probably from Montenegro (Y-DNA will confirm or refute it), but why is that important for genetics?
    I probably have some signifigant ancestry from there, due to my results being very southern for serbs from croatia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Bro, I have no anti-Albanian sentiments, I simply judge by the opinions of Albanian nationalists in this forum. I mean people say "well, you're Albanian which means Muslim" and that freaks some Albanians out, so they turn against Christian Europeans and start defending Islam. They can practice whatever they want in Albania or Kosovo, but I hate it when pro-Islamic people (not necessarily Albanians) try to tell us that Islam is just as European as Christianity or that "we used to be violent too".
    I know you don't but you can't come to such a conclusion based on forum members. Albanians are just trying to defend themselves when people try and accuse them of something just because of religion. I don't think religions today can belong to any group such as "European". Albanians are known for being one of the most religious tolerant people and that we have no care for what religion a person belongs to
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I know you don't but you can't come to such a conclusion based on forum members. Albanians are just trying to defend themselves when people try and accuse them of something just because of religion. I don't think religions today can belong to any group such as "European". Albanians are known for being one of the most religious tolerant people and that we have no care for what religion a person belongs to
    Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.
    Our muslim names in Bosnia are usually unique. They're from Arab or Persian origin but still unique. Ahmed, Muhammed is not very usual name here. Most of our names doesn't exist in Arabia or even Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.
    Albanians though don't have those beards and especially don't assume an Islamic identitiy, a muslim Albanian is just as culturally Albanian as a christian Albanian.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Well, I would find it hard to accept a man whose name is Ahmad and who has a mullah beard as a culturally European person. Maybe you think different because Albanians can be both Muslim and Christian, but in other countries people who convert to Islam usually discard their culture and embrace some pseudo-Arabic identity.
    It seems you haven't met much Albanians. Those i've seen (muslims) were far from being religious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***** View Post
    There is nothing to congratulate me.
    I am not a Croat, I am just passionate about history and genetics.
    Also there is no pan-slavism and what bounds most of the modern Slavs today is the language only.
    The pan-slavism was favoured in the past, but not anymore, there are simply too many differences between us.
    My involvement in this discussion was because of your exaggerated influence of Turkics on Slavs.
    In fact, the Turkics had much more contact with Germanics than Slavs.
    I am Balkanite and i have relation with East Slavs. Your theory falls down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    You are western, central Europeans. Ask Stears
    Albania was never Catholic state, it had more orthodox belivers before Ottomans arrived and it was in Byzantine sphere of influence.

    Wrong parallel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***** View Post
    That's simply not true.
    I don't know why you are trying to push this agenda but that's not true.
    Slovenes, Croats and Bosniaks are definitely more Slavic.
    Even Serbs, I've seen many results of them and most of them are under fifty percent "South Eastern Europe" on FTDNA's MyOrigins.
    Also you plot closer to Moldavians and you are rather closer to Ukrainians than to Greeks.
    Serbs are usually (not at all) North-West influenced. I am North East, Balto-Slavica area.

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