VLATKO VUKOVIC's autosomal!

[Jana]

No, the northern part did actually become catholic and was sort of a catholic outpost in the region. I mean, seriously, do you think that Venetian rule is the reason for Catholicism being so wide-spread in Albania? If you didn't know, there is even a ethnic Romanian here that's a catholic. Catholicism is not as limited as you'd like to think, but I just am trolling you since you sorta act like there is something special with orthodox Christianity just because of "muh schism" when you're basically ignoring so many splits and wars after the schism. Listen, you might know I'm not the biggest fan of Christianity, but Orthodox Christianity is basically the same as Catholicism in the grander scheme of things. Cultural differences are mostly from other sources.

Didn't you read Kelmendasi post ? North became Catholic to resist orthodox Serbs.

I said Albania was never truly part of western Catholic world, and didn't have such development. That's all. They had much closer ties with Byzantine Empire.

[MalinBot]

The fact you hate Bosniaks and have unsound mind doens't make me like you. You even claimed Bosniaks are Albanians
And genetics clearly show how Bosnia is closer to Croatia, than to Serbia. And Bosnian Serbs can get similar results like Vlatko, because there is not much genetic difference between 3 nations in BiH.

I have never said this and why are you switching the subject?Except a small percentage who are muslim import, bosniaks are just recent muslimized and brainwashed croats and serbs, i never claimed they are close to albanians and i don't care about your graphs, i had already stated what my argument to both you and Leto.

[Jana]

I have never said this and why are you switching the subject?Except a small percentage who are muslim import, bosniaks are just recent muslimized and brainwashed croats and serbs, i never claimed they are close to albanians and i don't care about your graphs, i had already stated what my argument to both you and Leto.

They are Bosniaks and they have distinct identity and Bosnia was distinct Kingdom in middle ages. Croat and Serb national identity developed in 19th century, and Bosniaks didn't take part in it.

They share ancestry with both, yes, but they are something unique for many centuries already. And you claimed my grandpa was Albanian, because he is part Bosniak.

[Vlatko Vukovic]

They are Bosniaks and they have distinct identity and Bosnia was distinct Kingdom in middle ages. Croat and Serb national idenity developed in 19th century, and Bosniaks didn't take part in it.

They share ancestry with both, yes, but they are something unique for many centuries already. And you claimed my grandpa was Albanian, because he is part Bosniak.

"Nationality" and "identity" are not clear terms for Romanians. According to his fucktard logic, Americans are Englishmen and should be represented as they.

[Leto]

They are Bosniaks and they have distinct identity and Bosnia was distinct Kingdom in middle ages. Croat and Serb national idenity developed in 19th century, and Bosniaks didn't take part in it.

They share ancestry with both, yes, but they are something unique for many centuries already. And you claimed my grandpa was Albanian, because he is part Bosniak.

I always thought the Bosniak identity was kind of meaningless without Islam. I mean if a Bosniak converts to Christianity, is he not another Serbo-Croat-speaking Yugoslav?

[MalinBot]

They are Bosniaks and they have distinct identity and Bosnia was distinct Kingdom in middle ages. Croat and Serb national idenity developed in 19th century, and Bosniaks didn't take part in it.

They share ancestry with both, yes, but they are something unique for many centuries already. And you claimed my grandpa was Albanian, because he is part Bosniak.

"Bosniaks" did not take part in it because there's no such thing as bosniak.Bosniak = muslim bosnian

[Jana]

I always thought the Bosniak identity was kind of meaningless without Islam. I mean if a Bosniak converts to Christianity, is he not another Serbo-Croat-speaking Yugoslav?

Not necessary, I think. Depend on individual

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I always thought the Bosniak identity was kind of meaningless without Islam. I mean if a Bosniak converts to Christianity, is he not another Serbo-Croat-speaking Yugoslav?

You know that modern meaning of nationality is established after French revolution, when the modern ethnicities are established. Before that, ethnicities on Balkans were mainly even illiterate. And then we have among Serbs for example Vuk Karadzic who born nationalist idea and establish Serbian Cyrillic as national writing. That was example. Under the Turks, for example, people mainly identified by religion- Muslim, Christian and that was for long period, becouse it was long conflict of 2 different civilisations.

Some Croats are of Serbian origin today, and some Serbs of Croatian origin (from the ancient history) but they're today what they're.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

You are the gopnik here. You attack us because we don't wanna live with Muzzies. Seriously, dude, do you feel close to Arabs, Turks, Afghans, Pakis, etc.? I don't think you would like them to flood Albania, even if most Albanians share their religion. And with us they don't share anything. So you are the hypocrit here.

You change one subject matter to another, no I don't blame you for not wanting Muslim immigrants in, I wouldn't want immigrants either, but I have another good reason why but I wouldn't go into details now, also the problem with you was not of cultural preservation nature, the problem with you was how you separate and ridicule Albanians deliberately from religious background without even knowing our mentality in the first place, if this is not hypocrisy from you I know the ignorance has alot to do with it.

[Leto]

You change one subject matter to another, no I don't blame you for not wanting Muslim immigrants in, I wouldn't want immigrants either, but I have another good reason why but I wouldn't go into details now, also the problem with you was not of cultural preservation nature, the problem with you was how you separate and ridicule Albanians deliberately from religious background without even knowing our mentality in the first place, if this is not hypocrisy from you I know the ignorance has alot to do with it.

I don't ridicule Albanians, don't strawman. I merely said I personally more closely identify with Orthodox people.