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    Quote Originally Posted by АКСИС View Post
    Please ethnic Slovak bishop paid for poles to come and protect Europe against the Turks. Slovaks and Hungarians were part of the same kingdom u think Slovaks were doing jack all day?

    Rest of Balkans was also under ottomans and spain was under longer Islamic rule. There's no excuse

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    And Spain was islamized as you know, the difference is that Spaniards succesed to back them to christianity (or killed them), while Serbs didn't have such succes here. By the way: Serbia was a long vassal, without directly Ottoman presence, while Bosnia was under Ottoman presence from the beggining, until the end occupation. The fact is that wherever was Islamic Empire, people got accept Islam, in Spain, North Africa, Anatolia, Africa, Central Asia, etc etc... The same is with Balkans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

    1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

    2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.
    Exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

    1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

    2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.
    Your second reason proves only more why they were traitors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic View Post
    About Deymark, he plots with Russians.
    He plots closest to Hungarians. You're more eastern shifting on the eurogenes maps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by АКСИС View Post
    Because Islam was founded by a man who killed and massacred men in front of their wives and then took their widows as his own wives, because he married a 6 year old and slept with her when she was 9.....also other stupid rules like going to the bathroom and cleaning yourself with your left hand lol.

    You cant compare any Christian faith that Follows Jesus an example of complete goodness and Muhammed an example of everything human and worldly.
    This still doesn't explain how the most primitive and backwards form of Christianity is more developed than the most developed form of Islam. I am not saying that Islam is the better faith but it's not like Christians haven't committed crimes in the name of their god sure Muslims have done more but that's not an excuse for you guys to act innocent. I personally don't care about both religions
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    This still doesn't explain how the most primitive and backwards form of Christianity is more developed than the most developed form of Islam. I am not saying that Islam is the better faith but it's not like Christians haven't committed crimes in the name of their god sure Muslims have done more but that's not an excuse for you guys to act innocent. I personally don't care about both religions
    Christianity and Islam are two ideologies founded by two different figures. One was all good, the other a degenerate violent criminal. There is zero comparison.

    Also all people do bad stuff because we are humans. I'm comparing ideologies themselves. Even Mormons who are maybe the most degenerate form of Christianity (even though they aren't proper Christians) still are like a peaceful version of muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by АКСИС View Post
    Christianity and Islam are two ideologies founded by two different figures. One was all good, the other a degenerate violent criminal. There is zero comparison.

    Also all people do bad stuff because we are humans. I'm comparing ideologies themselves. Even Mormons who are maybe the most degenerate form of Christianity (even though they aren't proper Christians) still are like a peaceful version of muslims.

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    Mohammed was just another conqueror that used his religion to make sure that the masses would stay under control, Jesus on the other hand wasn't a conqueror and wasn't a violent man but he did act as if he was the son of a god and among other things but of course as a Christian you believe those claims. Both religions are Abrahamic ones so they do probably share some similarities. I don't know much about these religions and what they stand for which is why I asked for explanations
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Mohammed was just another conqueror that used his religion to make sure that the masses would stay under control, Jesus on the other hand wasn't a conqueror and wasn't a violent man but he did act as if he was the son of a god and among other things but of course as a Christian you believe those claims. Both religions are Abrahamic ones so they do probably share some similarities. I don't know much about these religions and what they stand for which is why I asked for explanations
    Ask Greeks how Maniotes became Christians ...





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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    Ask Greeks how Maniotes became Christians ...





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    Let's stop talking about religion here, it's off-topic

    This Bosniak is quite similar to Vlatko:
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    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 45.19
    2 Atlantic_Med 25.45
    3 Caucasus 17.19
    4 Southwest_Asian 5.45
    5 Gedrosia 4.66
    6 Siberian 0.87
    7 South_Asian 0.78
    8 Northwest_African 0.41

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    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.2
    2 German (Dodecad) 10.96
    3 Romanians (Behar) 13.18
    4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.07
    5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.54
    6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.15
    7 Dutch (Dodecad) 18.12
    8 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 18.31
    9 Polish (Dodecad) 18.35
    10 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.75
    11 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 20.27
    12 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.75
    13 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.87
    14 French (Dodecad) 20.93
    15 English (Dodecad) 20.96
    16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 20.97
    17 French (HGDP) 21.34
    18 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.84
    19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.85
    20 Orkney (1000Genomes) 23.16

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