Ancient samples GEDmatch kits

[Ajeje Brazorf]

K36 of the Mycenaeans

I9041
Italian 41.19
East-Med 16.49
Iberian 14.81
West-Med 9.76
Armenian 7.86
East-Balkan 5.29
Near-Eastern 4.31
French 0.29

I9006
Italian 36.39
East-Med 15.98
West-Med 14.33
Iberian 7.73
Armenian 7.09
East-Balkan 6.86
Near-Eastern 6.08
West-Caucasian 5.53

I9033
Italian 30.98
East-Med 23.58
West-Med 18.34
Iberian 9.75
East-Balkan 6.17
East-Central-Euro 4.76
Basque 4.51
North-Atlantic 1.8
West-Caucasian 0.11

[Meerkat]

I was expecting mainland/island Greek populations to come up first, like Greek_Central, Greek_Thessaly, etc

It is bizarre because it isn't like this a population lost to history. Greeks have been in the peninsula for thousands of years. Of course they have changed but I thought the continuity would be stronger, especially since foreign populations are coming up first

Yeah I've also noticed that North African populations (not Jewish ones) are showing up before some Greek populations.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Kit Number: Z639605
Name: Swat S2270

Kit Number: Z063604
Name: Hajii_Firuz BA I4243

Kit Number: Z126798
Name: I4901 Dzharkutan2_BA

Kit Number: Z599794
Name: Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 S8726.E1.L1

Kit Number: Z816953
Name: West Siberia I5766

Kit Number: Z620055
Name: Gonur_outlier I1783

Kit Number: Z146444
Name: Saidu Sharif S7722.E1.L1

Kit Number: Z690575
Name: Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3 S8728.E1.L1

Kit Number: Z669441
Name: I4153 Kashkarchi_BA

Kit Number: Z905950
Name: I1765_d Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z792075
Name: I1767 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z886401
Name: I1770 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z153380
Name: I2418 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z800113
Name: I2446 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z760891
Name: I2443 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z078388
Name: I2445 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z600869
Name: I2417 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z131879
Name: I2447 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z450619
Name: I2450 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z654972
Name: I2452 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z707403
Name: I2453 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z203798
Name: I2455 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z347682
Name: I2459 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z766963
Name: I2568 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z819290
Name: I2454 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z846057
Name: I2566 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z557300
Name: I2565 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z186583
Name: I2566 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z265493
Name: I2598 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z018758
Name: I3255 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z032359
Name: I5367 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z762603
Name: I5376 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z843361
Name: I5379 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z281565
Name: I5385 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z567475
Name: I5382 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z560295
Name: I5471 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z586131
Name: I5513 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z890194
Name: I5512 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z369442
Name: I6679 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z690341
Name: I6774 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z438359
Name: I6775 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z733360
Name: I6777 Beaker_Britain

Kit Number: Z569316
Name: da198

Kit Number: Z548193
Name: da243

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Kit Number: T344025
Name: *sar00665

Kit Number: T110296
Name: *NoIta01171

Kit Number: M959325
Name: *PunnW_X

Kit Number: M773433
Name: *I0057 Haak2015

Kit Number: T277697
Name: PT_BA_TorreVelha_32032

Kit Number: T587467
Name: PT_BA_MonteGato_104

Kit Number: T369363
Name: PT_LN_Monte_Canelas_1

Kit Number: T845194
Name: PT_BA_ERR1524174

Kit Number: T772566
Name: PT_BA_TorreVelha_3831

Kit Number: T727813
Name: PT_BA_ValeOuro_10207

Kit Number: M935669
Name: Yoruba00920

Kit Number: M736923
Name: Mbuti00449

Kit Number: M924986
Name: Han00774

Kit Number: M440772
Name: Biaka00448

Kit Number: Z851441
Name: beaker_iberia_I0839

Kit Number: M006475
Name: beaker_iberia_I0840

Kit Number: M157298
Name: beaker_iberia_I0462

Kit Number: M864839
Name: beaker_iberia_I0460

Kit Number: Z885883
Name: beaker_iberia_I0459_plink

Kit Number: M830301
Name: beaker_iberia_I0459_23andMeV3

Kit Number: Z768646
Name: beaker_iberia_I08399

Kit Number: Z920317
Name: beaker_iberia_I0840_bom

Kit Number: Z028065
Name: beaker_iberia_I0462_bom

Kit Number: Z575022
Name: SE_iberia_CA_I0457

Kit Number: Z363771
Name: SE_iberia_CA_I0456

Kit Number: Z595073
Name: SE_iberia_CA_I0453

Kit Number: Z951821
Name: SE_iberia_CA_I0455

Kit Number: Z818223
Name: beaker_iberia_I0263

Kit Number: Z661734
Name: beaker_iberia_I1553

Kit Number: Z594944
Name: beaker_iberia_I0825

Kit Number: Z669531
Name: beaker_iberia_I0260

Kit Number: Z514341
Name: beaker_iberia_I0261

Kit Number: Z197645
Name: beaker_iberia_I0823

Kit Number: Z244684
Name: beaker_iberia_I0258

Kit Number: Z185227
Name: beaker_iberia_I0262

Kit Number: Z787568
Name: beaker_iberia_I0257

Kit Number: Z732213
Name: beaker_iberia_I0826

Kit Number: Z924210
Name: beaker_iberia_I0458

Kit Number: Z409741
Name: beaker_iberia_I0461

Kit Number: Z725908
Name: beaker_iberia_I4247

Kit Number: Z865801
Name: beaker_iberia_I5665

Kit Number: Z885168
Name: beaker_iberia_I6466

Kit Number: Z090405
Name: beaker_iberia_I6467

Kit Number: Z308457
Name: beaker_iberia_I6471

Kit Number: Z716162
Name: beaker_iberia_I6475

Kit Number: Z453965
Name: beaker_iberia_I6539

Kit Number: Z866775
Name: beaker_iberia_I6542

Kit Number: Z988314
Name: beaker_iberia_I6543

Kit Number: Z936867
Name: beaker_iberia_I6584

Kit Number: Z494027
Name: beaker_iberia_I6585

Kit Number: Z289652
Name: beaker_iberia_I6587

Kit Number: Z656031
Name: beaker_iberia_I6588

Kit Number: Z466747
Name: beaker_iberia_I6589

Kit Number: Z451050
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6596

Kit Number: Z716738
Name: SW_iberia_CA_I6601

Kit Number: Z043598
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6604

Kit Number: Z715334
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6605

Kit Number: Z573057
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6608

Kit Number: Z038073
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6610

Kit Number: Z393527
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6612

Kit Number: Z069944
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6613

Kit Number: Z652368
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6617

Kit Number: Z760653
Name: beaker_iberia_I6622

Kit Number: Z340596
Name: beaker_iberia_I6623

Kit Number: Z314492
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6628

Kit Number: Z533297
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6629

Kit Number: Z081459
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6630

Kit Number: Z015583
Name: beaker_iberia_I4229

Kit Number: Z744344
Name: beaker_iberia_I4245

Kit Number: Z448547
Name: beaker_iberia_I6472

Kit Number: Z470838
Name: C_iberia_CA_I6609

Kit Number: Z428183
Name: beaker_iberia_I1970

Kit Number: Z748741
Name: beaker_iberia_I6626

Kit Number: Z398780
Name: Tarofalt2

Kit Number: Z254561
Name: Tarofalt1

Kit Number: Z373052
Name: Tarofalt3

Kit Number: Z021633
Name: Tarofalt4

Kit Number: Z554001
Name: Tarofalt5

Kit Number: Z251090
Name: beaker_sicily_I4930

Kit Number: Z618185
Name: beaker_sicily_I4933

Kit Number: Z747726
Name: beaker_sicily_I4936

Kit Number: Z086971
Name: Scotland_N_I2634

Kit Number: Z491527
Name: Scotland_N_I2636

Kit Number: Z818897
Name: Scotland_N_I7554

Kit Number: Z508543
Name: France_MLN_I4304

Kit Number: Z497869
Name: France_MLN_I4305

Kit Number: Z507601
Name: France_MLN_I4308

Kit Number: Z761830
Name: Iron_Gates_HG_I4871

Kit Number: Z454359
Name: Ukraine_Neolithic_I1736

Kit Number: Z813512
Name: England_MBA_I3082

Kit Number: Z665145
Name: England_MBA_I2458

Kit Number: Z509785
Name: England_LBA_I5383

Kit Number: Z862428
Name: England_CA_EBA_I7630

Kit Number: Z508537
Name: England_CA_EBA_I7638

Kit Number: Z029180
Name: England_CA_EBA_I7635

Kit Number: Z197889
Name: England_CA_EBA_I7639

Kit Number: Z155853
Name: England_CA_EBA_I2457

Kit Number: Z584734
Name: England_CA_EBA_I2421

Kit Number: Z182123
Name: Netherlands_BA_I4070

Kit Number: Z173284
Name: Netherlands_BA_I4071

Kit Number: Z036686
Name: Czech_EBA_I5035

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Kit Number: T135721
Name: *RISE489-Remedello_Culture

Kit Number: T644357
Name: *RISE563-German_Bell_Beaker

Kit Number: T722032
Name: *RISE471-Germany-Tumulus-Culture

Kit Number: T699825
Name: *RISE487-Remedello_Culture

Kit Number: T319214
Name: *RISE486-Remedello_Culture

Kit Number: T253390
Name: *I0806-German_Bell_Beaker

Kit Number: T798943
Name: *I1277-Copper-Age-Spain

Kit Number: T947885
Name: *Ostuni1-Grevettian-Italy

Kit Number: T185931
Name: *RISE560-German_Bell_Beaker

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Kit Number: Z445292
Name: Minoan_Lasithi I0073
100,214 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z746199
Name: Minoan_Lasithi I0074
78,125 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z667807
Name: Mycenaean I9041
56,845 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z834237
Name: Minoan_Lasithi I9005
53,066 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z004092
Name: Mycenaean I9006
49,070 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z157740
Name: Mycenaean I9033
34,032 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z290210
Name: Mycenaean I9010
33,394 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z129820
Name: Minoan_Odigitria I9131
15,053 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z140201
Name: Minoan_Odigitria I9130
14,566 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z646820
Name: Minoan_Odigitria I9129
10,239 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z401678
Name: Crete_Armenoi I9123
7,710 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z501208
Name: Minoan_Odigitria I9127
5,892 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit Number: Z383564
Name: Minoan_Odigitria I9128
2,676 SNPs used in this evaluation

[Sikeliot]

I was expecting mainland/island Greek populations to come up first, like Greek_Central, Greek_Thessaly, etc

It is bizarre because it isn't like this a population lost to history. Greeks have been in the peninsula for thousands of years. Of course they have changed but I thought the continuity would be stronger, especially since foreign populations are coming up first

It isn't. The ancient populations of Greece had considerably more ancestry which can today be modeled as Sardinian/West Med than any modern Greeks do, while modern Greeks have considerably higher Steppe.

So what ends up happening is you can better model ancient Greek populations as some mixture of Sicilian or Jewish, and West Mediterranean, not because they were a mixture of Sicilians and Sardinians but because they did not have much Steppe.

For what it is worth, the same thing occurs when you look at Bronze Age Sicily (Bell Beaker).

[JQP4545]

Glad to see those kits are back up on Gedmatch

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Kit Number: T005824
Name: Sunghir6 Vladimir Rusin circa 1160AD

Kit Number: T088553
Name: USR1_Beringian

Kit Number: T434853
Name: DA123 Kok-Mardan

Kit Number: M853162
Name: DA89 Turk

Kit Number: T619388
Name: BOT14 Botai

Kit Number: M719407
Name: Minoan Lasithi

Kit Number: Z936555
Name: DA382 TurkmenistanIA

Kit Number: T960967
Name: DA249 ShamankaEN

Kit Number: T161521
Name: DA342 Ust-Ida-LN

Kit Number: T075567
Name: DA381 Namazga

Kit Number: T854665
Name: DA337 ShamankaEBA

Kit Number: T739688
Name: DA358 KurmaEBA

Kit Number: T541349
Name: MA2195 Ottoman 1400-1600AD

Kit Number: T504160
Name: EBA2 steppe

Kit Number: T742380
Name: BOT15 Botai

Kit Number: T948730
Name: RISE674 Okunevo

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Kit Number: M381564
Name: F38 Kurdistan EIA [971-832 BC]

Kit Number: T637158
Name: I1955 Kurdistan Medieval [1430–1485 AD]

Kit Number: M575241
Name: RISE423 Armenia MBA [1402-1211 BC]

Kit Number: M497255
Name: RISE397 Armenia LBA [1048-855 BC]

Kit Number: M340653
Name: I1635 Armenia EBA [2619-2465 BC]

Kit Number: M825671
Name: I1293 Iran Mesolithic [9100-8600 BC]

Kit Number: M124777
Name: RISE416 Armenia MBA [1643-1445 BC]

Kit Number: M300627
Name: Kum4 Anatolia EBA [3500–2800 BC]

Kit Number: M487536
Name: RISE413 Armenia MBA [1906-1698 BC]

Kit Number: M062682
Name: RISE396 Armenia LBA [1192-937 BC]

Kit Number: M578721
Name: RISE408 Armenia LBA [1209-1009 BC]

Kit Number: M263493
Name: RISE412 Armenia LBA [1193-945 BC]

Kit Number: M669778
Name: RISE1 Corded Ware Poland [2865-2578 BC]

Kit Number: M483824
Name: RISE598 Lithuania LBA [908-485 BC]

Kit Number: M484113
Name: RISE139 Unetice EBA Poland [2135-1923 BC]

Kit Number: M069028
Name: RISE145 Unetice EBA Poland [2188-1958 BC]

Kit Number: M155294
Name: I1674 Kurdistan Chalcolithic [3972-3800 BC]

Kit Number: M902476
Name: I1662 Kurdistan Chalcolithic [4831-4612 BC]

Kit Number: M731608
Name: I1633 Armenia EBA [2619-2410 BC]

Kit Number: M595455
Name: I1670 Kurdistan Chalcolithic [4839-4617 BC]

Kit Number: M133098
Name: I1409 Armenia Chalcolithic [4229-3985 BC]

Kit Number: M734029
Name: I1634 Armenia Chalcolithic [4330-4060 BC]

Kit Number: M417230
Name: I1407 Armenia Chalcolithic [4350-3700 BC]

Kit Number: M873184
Name: I1665 Kurdistan Chalcolithic [3956-3796 BC]

Kit Number: M162111
Name: I1632 Armenia Chalcolithic [4230-4000 BC]

Kit Number: M987765
Name: Tep001 Anatolia Early Neolithic [7014 BC]

Kit Number: M830273
Name: Tep003 Anatolia Early Neolithic [7174 BC]

Kit Number: M471006
Name: I1705 Jordan EBA [2198-1966 BC]

Kit Number: M682666
Name: I1730 Jordan EBA [2489-2299 BC]

Kit Number: M630274
Name: I0432 Poltavka outlier [2925-2536 BC]

Kit Number: M370663
Name: I0419 Potapovka [2200-1900 BC]

Kit Number: M631469
Name: RISE349 Hungary MBA [2034-1748 BC]

Kit Number: M191719
Name: RISE431 Corded Ware Proto-Unetice Poland [2286-2048 BC]

Kit Number: M974598
Name: RISE374 Maros Hungary [1866-1619 BC]

Kit Number: M733797
Name: RISE109 Unetice EBA Poland [1954-1772 BC]

Kit Number: M453254
Name: RISE154 Unetice EBA Poland [1925-1765 BC]

Kit Number: M239638
Name: RISE586 Unetice EBA Czech Republic [?]

Kit Number: M375165
Name: RISE373 Maros Hungary [1886-1696 BC]

Kit Number: M130094
Name: RISE61 Battle Axe Denmark [2650-2300 BC]

Kit Number: M235073
Name: I0354 Srubnaya Outlier [2014-1692 BC]

Kit Number: M328175
Name: I0423 Srubnaya [1850-1200 BC]

Kit Number: M396326
Name: I0803 Unetice EBA Germany [2132-1942 BC]

Kit Number: M285637
Name: H3C6 Spain EN [4350 BC]

Kit Number: M874014
Name: I1274 Iberia Chalcolithic [2880-2630 BC]

Kit Number: M116706
Name: ATP9 Iberia MBA [1700- 1568 BC]

Kit Number: M855364
Name: I1280 Iberia Chalcolithic [2880-2630 BC]

Kit Number: M734278
Name: I1303 Iberia Chalcolithic [2880-2630 BC]

Kit Number: M784782
Name: I1281 Iberia Chalcolithic [2880-2630 BC]

Kit Number: M422959
Name: ATP16 Iberia Pre-Bell Beaker/Chalcolithic [3211-2866 BC]

Kit Number: M216291
Name: I1314 Iberia Chalcolithic [2880-2630 BC]

Kit Number: M885415
Name: RISE524 Mezhovskaya [?]

Kit Number: M656208
Name: RISE525 Mezhovskaya LBA [?]

Kit Number: M654208
Name: RISE515 Okunevo BA [2340-2145 BC]

Kit Number: M625807
Name: RISE554 Afontova Gora LBA [1005-844 BC]

Kit Number: M648604
Name: RISE553 Afontova Gora LBA [926-815 BC]

Kit Number: M790241
Name: RISE516 Okunevo BA [2201-2036 BC]

Kit Number: M550685
Name: RISE523 Mezhovskaya LBA [1598-1398 BC]