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Thread: Why are Germanics (Germany, Switzerland, Northern Italy, UK, France) the most rich and successful?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordim View Post
    If Spaniards are so successful why is central and south America in the condition that its in now latino? Spaniards spread their latinoness but thats all they spread
    idk but i will tell u that all white latinos (99% of em) r mostly wealthy so

    and they descend from spaniards

    and spaniards at least had the balls to conquer all of the americas including north america

    the spaniards did the dirty work, the anglos came and took land later with money and gold

    hardly even put up a fight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordim View Post
    If Spaniards are so successful why is central and south America in the condition that its in now latino? Spaniards spread their latinoness but thats all they spread
    Because Spaniards left the power, that is why. While these colonies belonged to Spain some of them were the most sucessful colonies in its time, Cuba being the first of all.

    Following your logic, if Germanics are so sucessful why their colonies in the condition that is in now? Congo, India, South Africa, Jamaica, Nigeria, Egypt, Cameroon, etc etc

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    Northern Italy isn't Germanic at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Because Spaniards left the power, that is why. While these colonies belonged to Spain some of them were the most sucessful colonies in its time, Cuba being the first of all.

    Following your logic, if Germanics are so sucessful why their colonies in the condition that is in now? Congo, India, South Africa, Jamaica, Nigeria, Egypt, Cameroon, etc etc
    If you say so. I mean how can a guiri white guy like me know more about latinos like you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alessio View Post
    Northern Italy isn't Germanic at all.
    http://odinsvolk.ca/GermanicPeoples.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Northern Iberians are not any darker than Northern Italians.

    And I'm not sure why do you think that Italians have more of Germanic ancestry than Iberians? Germanic tribes also settled in Iberia, just like in Italy. But in both places they were extremely outnumbered by the locals.

    Eventually they melted into the locals and adopted their language.
    If Iberians weren't dark in general than they wouldn't have words like guiri and rubio for very white looking people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordim View Post
    If Iberians weren't dark in general than they wouldn't have words like guiri and rubio for very white looking people
    Every white/European people has similar terms for other white/European foreigners. This doesn't make any of them less "white", because they're still foreign - which is the simple fact these various terms convey, not that one people is white but another isn't. "Rubio" merely means "blond" and describes even many Spaniards who just happen to also be blonde. If Iberians allegedly weren't "white", then why aren't words such as "Blanco" or other terms denoting whiteness, used towards Northern Europeans instead? Even the term "white" itself was first used by the Spanish colonial authorities in Latin America, to differentiate those with unmixed heritage from the Iberian Peninsula from the Indigenous, African and mixed peoples in those colonies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean-Jobst View Post
    Every white/European people has similar terms for other white/European foreigners. This doesn't make any of them less "white", because they're still foreign - which is the simple fact these various terms convey, not that one people is white but another isn't. "Rubio" merely means "blond" and describes even many Spaniards who just happen to also be blonde. If Iberians allegedly weren't "white", then why aren't words such as "Blanco" or other terms denoting whiteness, used towards Northern Europeans instead? Even the term "white" itself was first used by the Spanish colonial authorities in Latin America, to differentiate those with unmixed heritage from the Iberian Peninsula from the Indigenous, African and mixed peoples in those colonies.
    I see your part Iberian so of course your gonna be bias. Why is it that in northern euro countries there aren't terms like guiri and rubio?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordim View Post
    The Lombardy/Sweden connection is one obvious one
    That does not mean Northern Italian is Germanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordim View Post
    I see your part Iberian so of course your gonna be bias. Why is it that in northern euro countries there aren't terms like guiri and rubio?
    I don't know about all northern European countries and their terms, but I am also Southern German and I know we traditionally had slang terms even towards Germans of other regions (specifically the North Germans) and there were also terms for those foreigners we interacted with the most, such as the neighboring French. The same can be said for here in the USA as you well know, with all sorts of terms invented about specific groups of white European peoples, sometimes derogatory and sometimes joking, but all in all simply denoting foreigners. And its the same with terms used by the white Spanish people about other white Europeans from more northern regions. I am a somewhat darker person of Spanish ancestry (dark hair and dark eyes, but still fair skin), yet having been to Spain I saw many native people fairer than me who wouldn't look out of place in northern European countries. That includes many blonde, blue-eyed Spaniards.

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