Sicilian native here

[donriccardo]

I knew that Don is a aristocratic title. I think also in spain, like Don Quihote? But it sounds so bad ass.

Most people relate the use of "Don" to Mafia, which is wrong.

[Sikeliot]

I have a question. From my paternal line, there was one spouse (female) with a sicilian family name (Emma) present in Sicily for many centuries but recorded in history books as of germanic roots. Another sicilian spouse (Bartoli) had a family name typical from Tuscany and Rome. There were also spouses with family names recorded in history from Venezia and Lombardy. I guess they had been in Sicily for many hundreds of years. My question is...if their family was really of Germanic, Lombard, Tuscan origins (perhaps 1000 years ago), will they appear in my DNA results or they will not, because the test only checks for males through Y-DNA? Or again Living DNA only make an "estimation" about the origin of the haplogroup?
I need some clarification about this. Thank you.

If just y-dna is tested, no. That only tells you about one ancestor out of millions.

If you do autosomal testing then yes, they will appear, yes, if they make up a significant enough portion of your DNA. Most likely it would lead to you plotting north of the Sicilian average (or rather, north of people who do not have recent mainland Italian input).

Yes, I agree with you. However I can differentiate yet sicilians from middle eastern people...
I also like to make a note about a friend of mine from Caltanissetta, he is 100% sicilian but he looks very north african (Morocco). I think he is the most similar to north african than any other sicilian I have ever seen. Everyone who knows him will call him "marocchino" as a joke. Dark skin, black and curly hair, tall. He is the only one in his family that look like that but I can assure he is 100% sicilian. I will post a photo of him next time.

As I said before in another thread, I do see MENA input in Sicilian phenotypes but if others don't, that is a personal, subjective opinion. What I do insist though is that even if people believe there is NO non-European input in the appearances, they do acknowledge that it is there genetically, and that on average, Sicilian natives are intermediate between other Southern Europeans and West Asians (the same is true for mainland south Italy, the Aegean islands like Crete, etc).

I don't have the ability of differentiating certain looks. For instance, this sort of look, I personally do perceive it as West Asian/Middle Eastern but you might not (I think because you grow up around Sicilians more than I do, you might only see the really extreme ones as looking Middle Eastern):

[donriccardo]

[QUOTE=Sikeliot;5277426]If just y-dna is tested, no. That only tells you about one ancestor out of millions.

If you do autosomal testing then yes, they will appear, yes, if they make up a significant enough portion of your DNA. Most likely it would lead to you plotting north of the Sicilian average (or rather, north of people who do not have recent mainland Italian input).



So the 3 in 1 living DNA doesn't include autosomal test, doesn't it ?

[donriccardo]

If just y-dna is tested, no. That only tells you about one ancestor out of millions.

If you do autosomal testing then yes, they will appear, yes, if they make up a significant enough portion of your DNA. Most likely it would lead to you plotting north of the Sicilian average (or rather, north of people who do not have recent mainland Italian input).



As I said before in another thread, I do see MENA input in Sicilian phenotypes but if others don't, that is a personal, subjective opinion. What I do insist though is that even if people believe there is NO non-European input in the appearances, they do acknowledge that it is there genetically, and that on average, Sicilian natives are intermediate between other Southern Europeans and West Asians (the same is true for mainland south Italy, the Aegean islands like Crete, etc).

I don't have the ability of differentiating certain looks. For instance, this sort of look, I personally do perceive it as West Asian/Middle Eastern but you might not (I think because you grow up around Sicilians more than I do, you might only see the really extreme ones as looking Middle Eastern):

So the 3 in 1 living DNA test doesn't include autosomal test, does it?

[donriccardo]

As I said before in another thread, I do see MENA input in Sicilian phenotypes but if others don't, that is a personal, subjective opinion. What I do insist though is that even if people believe there is NO non-European input in the appearances, they do acknowledge that it is there genetically, and that on average, Sicilian natives are intermediate between other Southern Europeans and West Asians (the same is true for mainland south Italy, the Aegean islands like Crete, etc).

I don't have the ability of differentiating certain looks. For instance, this sort of look, I personally do perceive it as West Asian/Middle Eastern but you might not (I think because you grow up around Sicilians more than I do, you might only see the really extreme ones as looking Middle Eastern):

Yes I perfectly understand what you mean.

[GiCa]

I knew that Don is a aristocratic title. I think also in spain, like Don Quihote? But it sounds so bad ass.

well in my part of italy it s used for priests

Don + (the name of the priest)

and for that matter in all italy too

[Cristiano viejo]

I knew that Don is a aristocratic title. I think also in spain, like Don Quihote? But it sounds so bad ass.

In Spain Don means (more or less) the same than Sir.
It is just a form to call or refer someone with education.

[donriccardo]

Also in Sicily DON is used for priests. It was used as a noble title until 1800.

[donriccardo]

This is the music video of my friend from Caltanissetta. 100% sicilian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlHITD3EI9w

[Mens-Sarda]

I knew that Don is a aristocratic title. I think also in spain, like Don Quihote? But it sounds so bad ass.

Now (in Sardinia) it's used mostly for Priests, in the past it was used also for nobles as Don (in modern era) or Donnu (in the middle ages), from vulgar Latin "Domnus", shortened version of "Dominus" (master, lord, owner). In Spain can be found as Don or Dueño (master, owner).