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    UPDATE: Interactive MDS analysis of the East Baltic

    Component #1 seems to be largely a Finnic-like (Left) vs. Baltic-like (Right) component.
    Component #2 is less obvious, or at least doesn't have a general rule like the first component.

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    The MDS seems a little unclear to me. I took the data from EU7c and applied it to a few individuals:



    Let's say, RU35, RU38, RU43 and UARU1 are practically on the same spot in Gnuplot, but their admixture data are rather disparate (EU9b):
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                  RU35	RU38	RU43	UARU1
    West European	0.00001	0.00001	0.04354	0.12867
    East European	0.23711	0.10697	0.19530	0.27455
    Northwest Euro	0.16932	0.26514	0.12118	0.00001
    North European	0.00757	0.00001	0.13341	0.08963
    East Asian	0.00001	0.00001	0.00948	0.00001
    South European	0.09117	0.00001	0.10884	0.08717
    Sub-Saharan 	0.00001	0.00001	0.00001	0.00001
    North Asian	0.00001	0.00695	0.01003	0.00001
    Baltic    	0.49481	0.62087	0.37817	0.41992
    RU38 has a low East Euro score, UARU1 has a high one. RU38 has a major NW Euro score, UARU1 has a low one. RU35 has an above average Baltic score, RU43 a below average one.
    Single Population Sharing (Eurogenes)
    1 Estonian_Polish 4.36
    2 Russian_Smolensk 4.88
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.32
    4 Belorussian 5.78
    5 Lithuanian 5.92

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    Genetic substructures across West Eurasia (DIY teaser)

    My results:

    27.54% Northeast_Euro
    2.24% Sub-Saharan
    0.00% North_African
    0.87% South_Asian
    49.94% West_Euro
    0.93% Southeast_Asian
    0.02% South_Siberian
    0.00% North_Asian
    0.01% East_Siberian
    0.07% East_Asian
    9.28% East_Mediterranean
    1.32% Middle_Eastern
    6.07% West_Asian
    1.72% Volga-Ural
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    My results:

    West_Asian 44.36
    East_Mediterranean 24.61
    Middle_Eastern 17.63
    West_Euro 10.24
    South_Asian 2.23
    East_Asian 0.42
    Volga-Ural 0.29
    Northeast_Euro 0.12
    Sub-Saharan 0.1
    North_African 0
    Southeast_Asian 0
    South_Siberian 0
    North_Asian 0
    East_Siberian 0

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    DIY? DIFM please...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    DIY? DIFM please...
    Yes. Eurogenes modification of the Dodecad DIY. Genetic substructures across West Eurasia (DIY teaser)

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    My results in that K14, test tool:

    35.26% Northeast_Euro
    0.04% Sub-Saharan
    0.00% North_African
    0.01% South_Asian

    49.38% West_Euro
    0.00% Southeast_Asian
    0.00% South_Siberian
    0.00% North_Asian
    0.01% East_Siberian
    0.00% East_Asian

    2.32% East_Mediterranean
    3.69% Middle_Eastern
    5.14% West_Asian
    4.15% Volga-Ural
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    63.00% West_Euro
    16.89% East_Mediterranean
    13.31% Northeast_Euro
    3.50% Middle_Eastern
    1.16% North_African
    1.10% Sub-Saharan
    0.73% East_Siberian
    0.27% East_Asian


    Looking forward for something more groundbreaking. Some results are a bit off too, low NA and high SSA

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    Well, that certainly is quite general. I would have preferred a North European and a West Mediterranean cluster as well. This way, everyone seems part-Northeast European, and it is largely impossible to tell apart between East Europeans.

    82.35% Northeast_Euro
    11.85% West_Euro
    2.45% East_Mediterranean
    1.82% Middle_Eastern
    0.72% West_Asian
    0.77% Volga-Ural
    0.04% South_Asian
    0.00% Sub-Saharan
    0.00% North_African
    0.00% Southeast_Asian
    0.00% South_Siberian
    0.00% North_Asian
    0.00% East_Siberian
    0.00% East_Asian

    I have a lower Volga score than Germans and Englishmen
    Single Population Sharing (Eurogenes)
    1 Estonian_Polish 4.36
    2 Russian_Smolensk 4.88
    3 Southwest_Russian 5.32
    4 Belorussian 5.78
    5 Lithuanian 5.92

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadu View Post
    Looking forward for something more groundbreaking. Some results are a bit off too, low NA and high SSA
    After some of my experiments, I doubt there that is a general North African cluster. It seems this was a composite, and soaking up a lot of Sub-Saharan African.

    So I tried to break it up. That left only 50-60% North African in the Mozabite Berbers, and higher Middle Eastern and Sub-Saharan scores in everyone who used to score North African.

    This can be done with a lot of clusters that represent large regions, but are based on small groups of people from the same ethnic groups.

    Quote Originally Posted by Humanophage View Post
    Well, that certainly is quite general. I would have preferred a North European and a West Mediterranean cluster as well. This way, everyone seems part-Northeast European, and it is largely impossible to tell apart between East Europeans.

    82.35% Northeast_Euro
    11.85% West_Euro
    2.45% East_Mediterranean
    1.82% Middle_Eastern
    0.72% West_Asian
    0.77% Volga-Ural
    0.04% South_Asian
    0.00% Sub-Saharan
    0.00% North_African
    0.00% Southeast_Asian
    0.00% South_Siberian
    0.00% North_Asian
    0.00% East_Siberian
    0.00% East_Asian

    I have a lower Volga score than Germans and Englishmen
    I think the ADMIXTURE run will be different for you. From memory it was. But I didn't save the results.

    It looks like the DIY didn't get the same amount of detail because you matched other Russians so well.

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