Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Loki]

Thx. Any of these forum members?

Not sure. I had a look at your further results, and Osweo (UK20) comes in at #66 for you. I'm #447.

[Loki]

May I request a run too? I am US83.

Your top 30 closest, excluding colonials:


IE4 0.739682
NO10 0.73944
Cornwall 0.739293
DEIE2 0.739292
DE17 0.738948
NO6 0.738923
UK19 0.738918
UK20 0.738864
Kent 0.738835
UK9 0.738826
UK38 0.738666
Kent 0.738626
Kent 0.738574
Daniel_MacArthur 0.738514
UA 0.738512
North_Italian 0.738506
UK29 0.738461
SE6 0.738458
NOUS2 0.738456
LT 0.738428
FRBE1 0.738392
UK25 0.738386
Kent 0.738364
DK3 0.738317
SENO1 0.738299
SE1 0.738291
Kent 0.738276
LT 0.73826
Cornwall 0.738241
NL4 0.738233

[Quasimodem]

I forgot the Basque guy, so here's the plot with the Basque guy included: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1586/geoflip2.png

And the coordinates: http://www.box.net/shared/9ck4cg0qdp87pre9irgn

EDIT: To summarize, the process was...

Load the IBS matrix with the following as components (i.e. the columns of the matrix), but only the Europeans of that group as the data points (i.e. the rows of the matrix):

Spanish (SW)
French (W)
Italian, N Italian and Tuscan (S)
Irish and Cornwall (NW)
Scandinavian (N)
Ukrainian and Mordvin (E)
Bulgarian and Greek (SE)
Cypriot and Turkish (ESE)
Adyghe, Chechens and Lezgins (North Caucasus)



Use the loadings of that plot to calculate coordinates for the rest of the Euros. However, since the originals on the plot are enormously boosted to their areas of the plot by their self-IBS scores of 1, you have to find a relationship of the original coordinate of some test-case original individuals with where they’d be if their own IBS score was changed to the average within-population IBS (minus the “1” values). It’s best to use samples from around the center of each extreme (i.e. furthest north, south, east, and west) population and use them to find the equations for the new individuals:

New Axis 1 coordinate = (2.176556872*Axis 1 coordinate) + 0.010960173
New Axis 2 coordinate = (3.407532703*Axis 2 coordinate) + 0.029440434

And then just flip Axis 1 and Axis 2, multiply the coordinates of the New Axis 2 by -1, and it looks geographical.

[Odoacer]

So, oddly, I (US239) end up right on top of Loki (SAEU1) in this plot:



(Circled in red, down & right of the massive British cluster.)

Our respective coordinates:

US239 -0.017583129 0.019062536
SAEU1 -0.017843137 0.019057021

I still don't know how to figure out my closest matches with Polako's most recent data. Can someone tell me how? I'll give you some rep points.

[Boudica]

Can I have a chart please, or a list with out colonials? US245

[Loki]

Can I have a chart please, or a list with out colonials? US245

I posted you the list without colonials on Skype chat

US245 1
1 Kent 0.740478
2 Kent 0.740287
3 FR 0.739905
4 NO7 0.739756
5 Kent 0.73975
6 IE8 0.739592
7 UK9 0.7395
8 FCA2 0.739481
9 IE16 0.739325
10 FR 0.739266
11 Kent 0.739259
12 NO2 0.739237
13 FR 0.739194
14 Cornwall 0.739175
15 Kent 0.739108
16 DE9 0.739067
17 HU 0.739045
18 FR 0.739006
19 FR2 0.738994
20 UK21 0.738954
21 Kent 0.738919
22 Kent 0.738914
23 DEIE2 0.738903
24 BY2 0.7389
25 Kate_Morley 0.73889
26 IE3 0.738887
27 UK22 0.738867
28 Kent 0.738805
29 UK3 0.738755
30 Cornwall 0.73874

[Boudica]

I posted you the list without colonials on Skype chat

US245 1
1 Kent 0.740478
2 Kent 0.740287
3 FR 0.739905
4 NO7 0.739756
5 Kent 0.73975
6 IE8 0.739592
7 UK9 0.7395
8 FCA2 0.739481
9 IE16 0.739325
10 FR 0.739266
11 Kent 0.739259
12 NO2 0.739237
13 FR 0.739194
14 Cornwall 0.739175
15 Kent 0.739108
16 DE9 0.739067
17 HU 0.739045
18 FR 0.739006
19 FR2 0.738994
20 UK21 0.738954
21 Kent 0.738919
22 Kent 0.738914
23 DEIE2 0.738903
24 BY2 0.7389
25 Kate_Morley 0.73889
26 IE3 0.738887
27 UK22 0.738867
28 Kent 0.738805
29 UK3 0.738755
30 Cornwall 0.73874

Hehe thanks loks I know, but I lost it because I'm not on that computer

[Loki]

So, oddly, I (US239) end up right on top of Loki (SAEU1) in this plot:

Yes I saw that! I was wondering who US239 was!

Here are your top 30 with colonials:


US239 1
1 US46 0.740032
2 SE1 0.739881
3 US123 0.739874
4 UK33 0.73985
5 US230 0.739814
6 Kent 0.739755
7 IE16 0.739669
8 BG 0.739534
9 SE15 0.739382
10 US78 0.739287
11 Kent 0.739255
12 IE21 0.739229
13 UK32 0.739225
14 Kent 0.739167
15 Kent 0.739158
16 Cornwall 0.739136
17 DEIE2 0.739083
18 Cornwall 0.739066
19 UKDE1 0.739064
20 FR 0.739055
21 UK21 0.739012
22 DESK1 0.73894
23 FRBE1 0.738929
24 UA 0.738874
25 UK4 0.738863
26 IE15 0.738862
27 US56 0.738859
28 Luke_Jostins 0.738847
29 DE14 0.738827
30 Cornwall 0.738798


Without colonials:


US239 1
1 SE1 0.739881
2 UK33 0.73985
3 Kent 0.739755
4 IE16 0.739669
5 BG 0.739534
6 SE15 0.739382
7 Kent 0.739255
8 IE21 0.739229
9 UK32 0.739225
10 Kent 0.739167
11 Kent 0.739158
12 Cornwall 0.739136
13 DEIE2 0.739083
14 Cornwall 0.739066
15 UKDE1 0.739064
16 FR 0.739055
17 UK21 0.739012
18 DESK1 0.73894
19 FRBE1 0.738929
20 UA 0.738874
21 UK4 0.738863
22 IE15 0.738862
23 Luke_Jostins 0.738847
24 DE14 0.738827
25 Cornwall 0.738798
26 IE20 0.738766
27 DEUK1 0.738765
28 Kent 0.73873
29 EE3 0.738727
30 NO7 0.738708

(even without colonials (US and CA) I only slot in at #419 to you, which is odd that we appear on the same spot)

[d3cimat3d]

Interesting how you could, with slight modification, arrange the Europe map over it and it would be close.



Quickly drew this in less than 1 minute, so don't neg rep me that I can't draw Europe!

& I'm MD1 by the way- I think I barely registered as European. I wonder where Turks would be on this?

[Loki]

I still don't know how to figure out my closest matches with Polako's most recent data. Can someone tell me how? I'll give you some rep points.

You just filter on your ID, transpose the lot and then sort from highest to lowest value in Excel.