Eurogenes Biogeographic Ancestry Project

[Humanophage]

Load the IBS matrix with the following as components (i.e. the columns of the matrix), but only the Europeans of that group as the data points (i.e. the rows of the matrix):

Spanish (SW)
French (W)
Italian, N Italian and Tuscan (S)
Irish and Cornwall (NW)
Scandinavian (N)
Ukrainian and Mordvin (E)
Bulgarian and Greek (SE)
Cypriot and Turkish (ESE)
Adyghe, Chechens and Lezgins (North Caucasus)

Why not use an extreme Eastern population like the Chuvash, considering there are extra-European southeastern populations?

[Boudica]

Interesting how you could, with slight modification, arrange the Europe map over it and it would be close.



Quickly drew this in less than 1 minute, so don't neg rep me that I can't draw Europe!

& I'm MD1 by the way- I think I barely registered as European. I wonder where Turks would be on this?

Haha, I don't think that I can see mine, I'm US245, perhaps i'm in the humongous area of clustering/overlapping. lol.

[Contra Mundum]

I just ordered 23andme. Will they give a break down of my ethnic heritage?

[Humanophage]

Interesting how the Dutch are spread very broadly. While Russians largely fit on one screen. I'm not sure it's a good idea to use important populations to be analysed as reference points, except if there is no choice (such as with the Irish).

It is not a surprise that Ukrainians will fit Eastern Europe and Scandinavians will fit Northern Europe and Italians will fit Southern Europe on the map, because they were placed there specifically as reference populations. So I'd imagine it's more useful for those populations which weren't used as references, especially those that aren't obviously related. It would be useful for Romanians, Dutchmen or the Portuguese, and they end up fairly spread up.

Haha, I don't think that I can see mine, I'm US245, perhaps i'm in the humongous area of clustering/overlapping. lol.

You're in the French cluster here, next to BE2, US244, FR, FR, FR, FCA3 and so forth: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1586/geoflip2.png

[Boudica]

Interesting how the Dutch are spread very broadly. While Russians largely fit on one screen. I'm not sure it's a good idea to use important populations to be analysed as reference points, except if there is no choice (such as with the Irish).

It is not a surprise that Ukrainians will fit Eastern Europe and Scandinavians will fit Northern Europe and Italians will fit Southern Europe on the map, because they were placed there specifically as reference populations. So I'd imagine it's more useful for those populations which weren't used as references, especially those that aren't obviously related. It would be useful for Romanians, Dutchmen or the Portuguese, and they end up fairly spread up.


You're in the French cluster here, next to BE2, US244, FR, FR, FR, FCA3 and so forth: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1586/geoflip2.png

Thanks I wonder who FCA3 is, they seem to be very close.

[Loki]

Interesting how the Dutch are spread very broadly.

As I can see there are only 5 Dutch samples. We will need way more to make a conclusive judgement on that.

[Pallantides]

Interesting how you could, with slight modification, arrange the Europe map over it and it would be close.



Quickly drew this in less than 1 minute, so don't neg rep me that I can't draw Europe!

Most Scandinavians live in the North sea?

[Peasant]

Interesting how you could, with slight modification, arrange the Europe map over it and it would be close.



Quickly drew this in less than 1 minute, so don't neg rep me that I can't draw Europe!

& I'm MD1 by the way- I think I barely registered as European. I wonder where Turks would be on this?

My position is similar to McDonald's charts on that one then. I'm not alone on this one though, theres somebody from Kent with me.

[Odoacer]

You just filter on your ID, transpose the lot and then sort from highest to lowest value in Excel.

I'll try it out later, thanks Loki.

[Hussar]

Finally i found the time and the will to run my own results (and thanks a portuguese friend of this forum )

It's EUROGENES (West Eurasian sub-structure : 14 clusters)

(i pointed out the 3 main components)



20.32% Northeast_Euro
0.00% Sub-Saharan
0.00% Berber
0.09% South_Asian
45.33% West_Euro
0.03% Southeast_Asian
0.00% South_Siberian
0.00% North_Asian
0.00% East_Siberian
0.00% East_Asian
25.84% East_Mediterranean
3.71% Middle_Eastern
3.39% West_Asian
1.29% Volga-Ural