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Thread: Scytho-Turkic Z93 branch Z2125 vs. Indo-Aryan migration theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishwamitra View Post
    So Real Aryans were turkic people according to this thread.

    But whenever i read ancient texts written by my brahmin tribes we all people beside other Rigvedics were described as Mellech(barbarian) or different from rigvedics.

    Iranians such as Parsians, Scythiams, Parthians, Pallavas, Kambojas, Paktas , Turuksha(Sanskrit word for turks), Yona/Yavana (ionian and macidonian tribes) etc all were described as foreign to the Aryavarta
    If Turuksha is the Sanskrit word for Turks, then Kushan are Turkic or what? because this would be the logical consequence.


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    Original Turkic people were a mix of Q, C and N haplogroups.

    Ket language ( Q haplogroup) related to Na-Dene Native American group sounds just like Turkic language.

    Very strong explosive guttural sound K in these three languages.



    Compare Ket with Kazakh language



    Inuit language of Canada resembles Turkic language in sound and grammatical structure is similar ( agglutinative).

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    . Original Turkic people were a mix of Q, C and N haplogroups.

    Ket language ( Q haplogroup) related to Na-Dene Native American group sounds just like Turkic language.

    Very strong explosive guttural sound K in these three languages.
    No,Y DNA C is not a component of proto bulgaro turkics but N and Q are more likely to be so.

    It has nothing to do with the na-dene natives and the Kets(and other yeniseic peoples).Na dene natives are a people of neo mongoloid carrying Y DNA C and split from other Eastern Asians 15-10.000 years ago.The natives of Yenisey carry Y DNA Q and they are a paleo Amerind people .They formed 30.000 years ago with the East Asian and ANE mixture.

    Ket language has no relation to Turkic languages.The Ket language contains excessive consonants and consonant clustures and contains toned sounds.Turkic languages are poor in terms of consonant and clustures and do not contain any tone.

    I've explained this before.

    proto Bulgaro turkic language did not contain laryngeal,uvular or harsh sounds,instead it contains dental, palatal,velar and labial consonants.

    there are significant differences between Turkic languages and paleo Siberian languages.

    1-)Turkic languages have rich vovels,but there is not much in PS languages.

    2-)Turkic languages have not as consonants as PS languages.

    3-)while Turkish languages are nominativ languages,PS languages are more ergative.

    4-)Turkic languages are agglutinativ,PS languages are polysentetic


    Turkic consonants: labial(p,b,m) dental(t,d,s,n,l,r),palatal(č,S,s,ñ,N,R,L),velar(k ,g,q,G)

    Turkic vovels:a,aa,e,ee,i,ii,ï,ïï,o,oo,ö,öö,u,uu,ü,üü,é,é é,perhaps ä,ää

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuk View Post
    No,Y DNA C is not a component of proto bulgaro turkics but N and Q are more likely to be so.
    Mongolian and Tungusic languages ( haplogroup C3) have similar grammatical structure as Turkic.

    In the same manner Yakut people ( a mix of Tungusic and Turkic peoples) have common haplogroup N with Uralic Finno-Ugric speakers. And grammar of Uralic languages is also similar to Tungusic and Turkic.

    There is also a link of haplogroup C origin with Dravidian languages which are also agglutinative in structure. Haplogroup C presumably originated from India because they found its highest variety in India. So I presume that carriers of haplogroup C spoke agglutinative language.

    I think that carriers of Haplogroup N spoke a language which nowadays is closer to Samoyedic language. The problem with Yakuts is that possibly they are Turkified Tungusic speakers.

    Samoyedic language

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    Mongolian and Tungusic languages ( haplogroup C3) have similar grammatical structure as Turkic.
    Also uralic,most amerindian languages,dravidian,hurro-urartian,caucasian,aboriginal languages etc. so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipchak Håkan View Post
    If Turuksha is the Sanskrit word for Turks, then Kushan are Turkic or what? because this would be the logical consequence.
    Kushans were Bactrian (East Iranic).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuk View Post
    Also uralic,most amerindian languages,dravidian,hurro-urartian,caucasian,aboriginal languages etc. so?
    Uralic - Tungusic ( common haplogroup N)

    Amerindian - Altaic ( common place of origin, haplogroups Q, C)

    Dravidian - haplogroup C formed in South India - Aboriginal Australians carry haplogroup C

    What sticks out is Hurro-Urartian and Caucasian languages. What I noticed is that Northern Caucasian languages like Chechen have stops/intervals like in Amerindian and some Siberian populations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mutabor View Post
    Uralic - Tungusic ( common haplogroup N)

    Amerindian - Altaic ( common place of origin, haplogroups Q, C)

    Dravidian - haplogroup C formed in South India - Aboriginal Australians carry haplogroup C

    What sticks out is Hurro-Urartian and Caucasian languages. What I noticed is that Northern Caucasian languages like Chechen have stops/intervals like in Amerindian and some Siberian populations.

    Where do you think O formed? Its concentration is in the eastern half of Asia, but I've even seen Pashtuns and Jatts with O in some rare cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Kushans were Bactrian (East Iranic).
    I don't think so.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vishwamitra View Post
    Kushans were tochrians of Tarim basin, they were described as Hair skinned and haired like White huns but i forgot the name of the document.
    But why were they called Turushka then?


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