Ford's (Bosnian Serb) autosomal results

[CommonSense]

Remember Bosniensis too.

He has partial Gorani ancestry that's pulling him towards the southeast. But you're generally right because even without it he would be very close to our average.

[Blondie]

That's normal.
Bulgarians are the only Slavs that crossed Romania during migration.
The others went round it.

Western Balkan Slavs migrated around the Northern Carpathians, and entered Pannonia in Slovakia (like the Mongols did).
That's why they're closer to (South) Western Slavs, but also have some similarities with the Moldovans.

Before hungarians and romanians the complete Carpathian Basin and Romania was full slavic land.

[Blondie]

That's normal.
Bulgarians are the only Slavs that crossed Romania during migration.
The others went round it.

Western Balkan Slavs migrated around the Northern Carpathians, and entered Pannonia in Slovakia (like the Mongols did).
That's why they're closer to (South) Western Slavs, but also have some similarities with the Moldovans.

Autosomaly romanians are closer to bulgarians, macedonians, serbs:



This is a complete balkanite population.

[Blondie]

I would replace Illyrian with "Southern European/Balkan", North Croat with "Northwest Croat" (Slavonians are mostly of Bosnian origin if I'm not mistaken), and add Hungarians to that first row. Otherwise, it seems accurate.

I don't think Poles are "strongly Germanic". They're still easily closer to East Slavs than to the easternmost Germans. Maybe some southern Poles are an exception to this.

Poles almost pure slavs:

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Poles almost pure slavs:

Balts purest Slavs ?

[Blondie]

Dude, you have no idea what you talking about.
Y chromosome is the only part of the DNA that gets passed fully from the male parent to the male child. All the rest of the DNA is a mishmash from both parents. This is the reason why we can build extremely precise phylogenetic trees on Y-DNA, and we cannot do the same with autosomal DNA.

Clusterings you get with autosomal DNA are a shit method for studying ancestry, compared to the clades of the phylogenetic tree. Autosomal DNA can only tell whether populations have acquired similar mutations. That's it. No deep ancestry can be assessed with it.

Y dna means nothing just the ancestry of male population. The autosomaly genetic is much better, because based on the complete population.

[Blondie]

Balts purest Slavs ?

Balts and slavs originated from same population: balto-slavic.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Balts and slavs originated from same population: balto-slavic.

Slavs were probably more southern shifted though. East Euro peaks more north from Slavic urheimat that's the thing

[Dick]

Before hungarians and romanians the complete Carpathian Basin and Romania was full slavic land.

Probably. I2a-Dinaric north is carpathian i think

[Blondie]

Tuđman was s Jew. Tito was of unknown origin.

Croatian Dinaric Talibans: Ante Starčević, Ante Pavelić, Maks Luburić, don Ivan Šarić, Mile Budak, Krunoslav Draganović, Tomislav Filipović ("fra satan"), Andrija Artuković, Jure Francetić, Gojko Šušak, Ante Gotovina, Mate Boban, Blaž Kraljević, Ante Trumbić, Milka Planinc, Ivan Meštrović, Mate Granić, Miljenko Hrkač, Zdravko Mamić, Milan Bandić, Ivica Todorić, Ivo Josipović, Stipe Mesić, Zoran Milanović, Marko Perković Tompson...

There is no Zagorci in Croatian political and economic elite, and very few in intelectual elite.

Tito was clearly croat.