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Thread: Ford's (Bosnian Serb) autosomal results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    Slavs were probably more southern shifted though. East Euro peaks more north from Slavic urheimat that's the thing
    yeah, everyone already had neolithic admixture before migrations, just how much is not sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    Serbia wouldn't stand much chance if Austro-Hungarian command didn't arrogantly underestimated them. Not because Serb soldiers were inferior (actually they had edge due to defending their homeland and having previous battle experience from Balkan wars) but simply because Serbia couldn't match Austro-Hungary in man power and industrial output (weapons productions etc). Austro-Hungarian army was not modernized but it still had superior logistics and technology compared to Serbia. Also larger pool of men and reserves to draft for war.

    Most Serbs do agree without allied help to transport their troops to Corfu they would have even bigger losses. Serbs lost most men during retreat trough Albania, thousands of captured Austro-Hungarian soldiers and officers that were retreating with them also left their bones there.
    85% of austro-hungarian army was on primary russian front, only 15% of soldiers was in serbian front. Austria-Hungary had very powerful ground forces, the total size was 7,8 million soldier:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_Army

    The A-H army was much bigger than british, american or italian army.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Probably. I2a-Dinaric north is carpathian i think
    Romanians originated from Western balkans and hungarians from Volga. Modern Romania was home of bulgarians:



    Transylvania, Wallachia, Moldova was bulgarian slavic:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    85% of austro-hungarian army was on primary russian front, only 15% of soldiers was in serbian front. Austria-Hungary had very powerful ground forces, the total size was 7,8 million soldier:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austro-Hungarian_Army

    The A-H army was much bigger than british or italian army.
    I know, equipment was outdated though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    A Serb (female) that is close to the K13 reference

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

    Kit M650062

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 28.95
    2 North_Atlantic 27.71
    3 West_Med 17.05
    4 East_Med 13.31
    5 West_Asian 9.5
    6 Red_Sea 1.17
    7 South_Asian 0.85
    8 East_Asian 0.49
    9 Northeast_African 0.47
    10 Amerindian 0.47
    11 Sub-Saharan 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 3.24
    2 Moldavian 6.14
    3 Romanian 6.68
    4 Hungarian 7.02
    5 Croatian 7.67
    6 Bulgarian 9.26
    7 Austrian 9.84
    8 East_German 11.25
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.37
    10 South_Polish 14.66
    11 West_German 15.47
    12 Ukrainian 15.57
    13 South_Dutch 16.94
    14 French 17.3
    15 Greek_Thessaly 17.57
    16 Polish 18.31
    17 North_Italian 18.37
    18 Southwest_Russian 19.35
    19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.54
    20 North_German 19.71

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 73.3% Croatian + 26.7% Tuscan @ 1.75
    2 55% Bulgarian + 45% East_German @ 1.8
    3 51.6% North_Italian + 48.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.03
    4 71.3% Croatian + 28.7% North_Italian @ 2.21
    5 75.8% Serbian + 24.2% Croatian @ 2.24
    6 76.2% Moldavian + 23.8% North_Italian @ 2.27
    7 75.9% Croatian + 24.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.29
    8 63.7% Romanian + 36.3% East_German @ 2.31
    9 57% Ukrainian + 43% Tuscan @ 2.38
    10 77.1% Croatian + 22.9% West_Sicilian @ 2.42
    11 83.7% Serbian + 16.3% East_German @ 2.44
    12 57.6% Hungarian + 42.4% Bulgarian @ 2.45
    13 87.9% Serbian + 12.1% Ukrainian @ 2.46
    14 89.7% Serbian + 10.3% Polish @ 2.49
    15 73% Serbian + 27% Moldavian @ 2.49
    16 87.5% Serbian + 12.5% South_Polish @ 2.5
    17 87.4% Serbian + 12.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.52
    18 53.9% Romanian + 46.1% Croatian @ 2.52
    19 59% Ukrainian_Lviv + 41% Tuscan @ 2.56
    20 51.4% Romanian + 48.6% Hungarian @ 2.57
    Look this one.

    Serb from western Bosnia.

    K15
    Population Percent
    1 Baltic 22.36
    2 North_Sea 20.34
    3 Atlantic 12.84
    4 West_Med 12.75
    5 Eastern_Euro 11.91
    6 West_Asian 10.74
    7 East_Med 7.28
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.89
    9 Red_Sea 0.75
    10 Oceanian 0.12

    #Population (source) Distance:
    1 Moldavian 4.6
    2 Croatian 6.82
    3 Hungarian 7.58
    4 Serbian 9.06
    5 Romanian 9.58
    6 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.03
    7 Austrian 11
    8 Ukrainian 11.21
    9 South_Polish 11.31
    10 Bulgarian 11.88
    11 East_German 12.02
    12 Polish 14.44
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.87
    14 Russian_Smolensk 15.12
    15 Southwest_Russian 15.62
    16 Belorussian 17.2
    17 Estonian_Polish 17.42
    18 Finnish 18.2
    19 Southwest_Finnish 18.24
    20 West_German 18.51


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Look this one.

    Serb from western Bosnia.
    since when are Serbs outside of Serbia representative of all Serbs ? This one is closer to average Croats than average Serbs and we know why. Western Bosnia was Croatian land before Ottoman conquest.

    if you dislike real Serbs, you can always declare as orthodox Croat bruv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    since when are Serbs outside of Serbia representative of all Serbs ? This one is closer to average Croats than average Serbs and we know why.
    I must agree with this. Don't know why Pribislav always shows some results out of average Serbian result. He should show my results since they are most average Serbian results here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moje ime View Post
    I must agree with this. Don't know why Pribislav always shows some results out of average Serbian result. He should show my results since they are most average Serbian results here.
    He don't like the fact most of Serbs are more southern shifted than his kin from Dalmatia and Bosnia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    since when are Serbs outside of Serbia representative of all Serbs ? This one is closer to average Croats than average Serbs and we know why. Western Bosnia was Croatian land before Ottoman conquest.

    if you dislike real Serbs, you can always declare as orthodox Croat bruv.
    Bosnia was part of Hungarian Kingdom or hungarian vassal state in the medieval age, the locals were mostly croats.




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    Pribislav made fun of me because I'm dark haired while he's blond. Dude is a nordicist lmao

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