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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    I think this tool suffers from some projection bias (?).

    I remember before the update (when it was just West Eurasia, not the whole World), coordinates were a bit different for the same K15 results.

    Do you remember that old version without Africa etc.?
    Yes, it was without. My father was more eastern I remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    I think this tool suffers from some projection bias (?).

    I remember before the update (when it was just West Eurasia, not the whole World), coordinates were a bit different for the same K15 results.

    Do you remember that old version without Africa etc.?
    Tolan forced this tool to have clusters in exact geographical directions. In PAST it is not the case (and it is correct behaviour as PCA composition is random, just Lemgrant posted above academic plots wehre NE-Europe is in left upper corner for example).
    This is why.

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    18 - Kursk (Russian)
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    20 - Momčilović (Serb)

    It's typical Serbian surname, and he plots like Serb.

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    Greater Poland samples added ( bright Green), unnumbered, so there can remain more space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    Greater Poland samples added (bright Green)
    Northern-plotting one (shifted towards North Sweden) is my cousin.

    In DNA Land you could see that his Southern Euro score is very low.

    Who is 13 and 9 - are they from Cumansky?
    My DNA Origin analysis for 16 EUR (you get 2 reports examining ancestry from 2114 regions, 190 countries): https://www.exploreyourdna.com/DNAOrigin.aspx

    This analysis is not based on G25 but on ADMIXTURE. And it has more regions than any other DNA test!

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    My dad, 3 grandparents from around Moscow, 1 from Eastern Ukraine

    North_Sea 21.03
    Atlantic 11.83
    Baltic 29.36
    Eastern_Euro 23.47
    West_Med 4.31
    West_Asian 6.00
    East_Med -
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian 1.26
    Southeast_Asian 1.05
    Siberian 1.17
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.52

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post


    20 - Momčilović (Serb)

    It's typical Serbian surname, and he plots like Serb.
    From what region Serb get this result?

    Momcilovic

    K15

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 20.77
    2 Baltic 19.05
    3 West_Asian 15.69
    4 Atlantic 12.98
    5 Eastern_Euro 12.06
    6 East_Med 10.13
    7 West_Med 9.25
    8 Oceanian 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Moldavian 7.94
    2 Romanian 8.53
    3 Serbian 8.99
    4 Hungarian 10.11
    5 Croatian 10.45
    6 Bulgarian 10.98
    7 Austrian 12.3
    8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14
    9 East_German 14.26
    10 South_Polish 14.74
    11 Ukrainian 15.15
    12 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.26
    14 Polish 17.74
    15 Russian_Smolensk 18.09
    16 Southwest_Russian 18.16
    17 West_German 18.73
    18 Greek 18.97
    19 South_Dutch 19.54
    20 Southwest_Finnish 20.02

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.1% Hungarian + 17.9% Abhkasian @ 3.38
    2 80.9% Hungarian + 19.1% Georgian @ 3.42
    3 78.5% Hungarian + 21.5% Adygei @ 3.68
    4 79.4% Hungarian + 20.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.93
    5 76.1% Hungarian + 23.9% Kumyk @ 3.95
    6 76.9% Hungarian + 23.1% Lezgin @ 4.02
    7 77.7% Hungarian + 22.3% Kabardin @ 4.07
    8 78.3% Hungarian + 21.7% Balkar @ 4.09
    9 79.8% Hungarian + 20.2% Ossetian @ 4.15
    10 77.9% Hungarian + 22.1% Chechen @ 4.18
    11 86.2% Moldavian + 13.8% Georgian @ 4.66
    12 77.1% Hungarian + 22.9% Tabassaran @ 4.66
    13 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% Abhkasian @ 4.74
    14 85.4% Moldavian + 14.6% Ossetian @ 4.96
    15 85.3% Moldavian + 14.7% North_Ossetian @ 4.99
    16 84.8% Moldavian + 15.2% Adygei @ 5.01
    17 83.1% Moldavian + 16.9% Tabassaran @ 5.05
    18 83.4% Moldavian + 16.6% Lezgin @ 5.06
    19 82.8% Moldavian + 17.2% Kumyk @ 5.06
    20 73% South_Polish + 27% Armenian @ 5.07

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    Croatian (Horvatich)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Atlantic 21.6
    2 Baltic 21.07
    3 North_Sea 18.48
    4 Eastern_Euro 14.02
    5 East_Med 8.28
    6 West_Med 7.67
    7 West_Asian 5.94
    8 Amerindian 1.09
    9 South_Asian 0.63
    10 Northeast_African 0.62
    11 Red_Sea 0.33
    12 Sub-Saharan 0.28

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Austrian 4.01
    2 Croatian 5.05
    3 Hungarian 6.6
    4 Moldavian 8.18
    5 Serbian 8.79
    6 East_German 9.24
    7 South_Polish 9.32
    8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.53
    9 Polish 11.02
    10 Ukrainian 11.05
    11 Romanian 11.36
    12 Russian_Smolensk 11.77
    13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.16
    14 Southwest_Russian 13.33
    15 Bulgarian 13.6
    16 Southwest_Finnish 13.71
    17 Belorussian 14.06
    18 Estonian_Polish 14.23
    19 Finnish 15.27
    20 South_Dutch 15.66

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    Quote Originally Posted by LukaszM View Post
    This is mostly from Spiš area (Carpathian mountains Polish/Slovak border).

    North_Sea 21.18
    Atlantic 14.24
    Baltic 26.20
    Eastern_Euro 20.34
    West_Med 10.92
    West_Asian 4.00
    East_Med 2.04
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian -
    Oceanian 0.39
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan 0.69
    Can you?

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