Eastern and Central Euro K15 PCA

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Years ago there was a TA member called Hrulj. He was a Muslim Bosniak but said he didn't understand Serbian and Croatian as they were foreign languages to him. He also considered himself Illyrian and said Slavs and Russians were subhumans (he looked Slavic and could pass as Russian as well).

Are you for real bro ? They speak same language like us. With lot more Turkish loanwords, but BiH Christians use them as well.

Bosniaks are weird, look how Bosniensis behaved. And funny because in inter war anthropological studies on BiH muslims were blondest and most light-eyed group, catholics whitest skinned though.
But differences weren't great. For some reason though it's easier to find stereotypical Slavic looking Bosniak than BiH Serb or Croat.

They look shorter and more Baltoid often compared with their Christian neighbours. That's from my experience at least. Maybe there was some sexual selection going on among muslims, I know lot of them are obsessed with blonde females even today. (Turkish cultural influence ? Turks love blondes)

Bosniaks from Serbia and Montenegro are very dark and can look mena, they look mostly Albanian in genetics.

[Leto]

Are you for real bro ? They speak same language like us. With lot more Turkish loanwords, but BiH Christians use them as well.

Bosniaks are weird, look how Bosniensis behaved. And funny because in inter war anthropological studies on BiH muslims were blondest and most light-eyed group, catholics whitest skinned though.
But differences weren't great. For some reason though it's easier to find stereotypical Slavic looking Bosniak than BiH Serb or Croat.

They look shorter and more Baltoid often compared with their Christian neighbours. That's from my experience at least. Maybe there was some sexual selection going on among muslims, I know lot of them are obsessed with blonde females even today. (Turkish cultural influence ? Turks love blondes)

Bosniaks from Serbia and Montenegro are very dark and can look mena, they look mostly Albanian in genetics.

I see. Many people still believe Bosniaks and Albanians are all part Turkish because of Islam but that's not true. Especially in Albanians the mongoloid is almost non-existent.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

I see. Many people still believe Bosniaks and Albanians are all part Turkish because of Islam but that's not true. Especially in Albanians the mongoloid is almost non-existent.

Albanians very pure Balkan natives, no Turkish admixture.

[Cumansky]

Nato where is 4 Russians?

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Pribislav wrote me yesterday there was tested Croat who came out R1a-Z93, and his ancestors were Islamized before converting back to Catholicism.
Another R1a Z93 person among tousands of tested Serbo-Croatian speakers is Bosniak.

Maybe they have Turkish admixture, or proto-Croat from Persia

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Nato where is 4 Russians?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post5808787

[Leto]

Pribislav wrote me yesterday there was tested Croat who came out R1a-Z93, and his ancestors were Islamized before converting back to Catholicism.
ANother R1a Z93 person among tousands of tested Serbo-Croatian speakers is Bosniak.

Maybe they have Turkish admixture, or proto-Croat from Persia

I consider R1a Z93 a white haplo as it was originally Indo-Iranian. Bronze Age Z93 carriers were nothing like Indians or Central Asians racially.

[Lemgrant]

Family of Russian and Jewish descent:
http://forum.molgen.org/index.php?topic=3234.5;imode




1. Father kit# F205199 (Ashkenazi Jew, Ukraine/Poland)

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Population
North_Sea 16.12
Atlantic 9.73
Baltic 4.17
Eastern_Euro 3.12
West_Med 15.13
West_Asian 12.77
East_Med 28.48
Red_Sea 7.16
South_Asian 0.54
Southeast_Asian 0.77
Siberian 0.79
Amerindian 0.40
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.83
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 6.46
2 East_Sicilian 7.3
3 Central_Greek 7.73
4 Italian_Abruzzo 8.6
5 South_Italian 8.99
6 Italian_Jewish 9.49
7 Greek_Thessaly 9.69
8 West_Sicilian 10
9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.51
10 Algerian_Jewish 12.15
11 Tuscan 12.55
12 Greek 12.57
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.49
14 Tunisian_Jewish 14.74
15 Cyprian 16.87
16 Bulgarian 17.59
17 North_Italian 18.34
18 Romanian 18.61
19 Lebanese_Muslim 18.81
20 Syrian 19.03

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% Samaritan + 42.8% West_German @ 3.58
2 55.7% Lebanese_Christian + 44.3% West_German @ 3.96
3 54% Lebanese_Christian + 46% French @ 4.28
4 63.5% Cyprian + 36.5% West_German @ 4.3
5 70.2% Cyprian + 29.8% West_Norwegian @ 4.38
6 61.8% Samaritan + 38.2% Southwest_English @ 4.61
7 69.5% Cyprian + 30.5% Norwegian @ 4.71
8 55.6% Samaritan + 44.4% French @ 4.71
9 64.4% Samaritan + 35.6% West_Norwegian @ 4.79
10 60.3% Lebanese_Christian + 39.7% Southwest_English @ 4.79
11 63.8% Samaritan + 36.2% Orcadian @ 4.91
12 63.6% Samaritan + 36.4% Norwegian @ 4.94
13 69.6% Cyprian + 30.4% Swedish @ 5.04
14 58.5% Samaritan + 41.5% South_Dutch @ 5.05
15 69.8% Cyprian + 30.2% Orcadian @ 5.1
16 57% Lebanese_Christian + 43% South_Dutch @ 5.13
17 62.9% Samaritan + 37.1% North_Dutch @ 5.16
18 62.3% Samaritan + 37.7% Southeast_English @ 5.21
19 51% Lebanese_Druze + 49% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.24
20 69.5% Libyan_Jewish + 30.5% West_German @ 5.24

2. Mother kit# F216277 (Russian, from Voronezh (maternal line) and Yaroslavl (paternal line))

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Population
North_Sea 21.42
Atlantic 12.77
Baltic 29.74
Eastern_Euro 22.19
West_Med 4.37
West_Asian 4.35
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.77
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.63
Amerindian 0.88
Oceanian 0.48
Northeast_African 0.40
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.61
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.37
3 Ukrainian 6.1
4 Estonian_Polish 6.15
5 Belorussian 6.22
6 Russian_Smolensk 6.52
7 Polish 6.61
8 Estonian 6.7
9 Kargopol_Russian 7.04
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.05
11 South_Polish 7.06
12 Lithuanian 7.66
13 Erzya 8.39
14 East_Finnish 10.18
15 Finnish 11.72
16 Croatian 12.82
17 Southwest_Finnish 13.84
18 Moldavian 13.87
19 Hungarian 14.9
20 La_Brana-1 16.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 44.6% Erzya @ 3.43
2 60.3% Ukrainian + 39.7% Erzya @ 3.47
3 58.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.3% Estonian @ 3.64
4 55.5% South_Polish + 44.5% Erzya @ 3.64
5 66.9% Southwest_Russian + 33.1% Estonian @ 3.69
6 57.9% Polish + 42.1% Erzya @ 3.73
7 78.5% Southwest_Russian + 21.5% East_Finnish @ 3.83
8 57.7% Estonian + 42.3% Erzya @ 3.87
9 81.5% Southwest_Russian + 18.5% Finnish @ 3.87
10 71.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.3% East_Finnish @ 3.89
11 50% Ukrainian_Lviv + 50% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.93
12 55.7% Ukrainian + 44.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 4
13 74.4% Lithuanian + 25.6% Tatar @ 4.06
14 75.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 24.2% Finnish @ 4.07
15 68.2% Southwest_Russian + 31.8% Ukrainian @ 4.1
16 53.1% Kargopol_Russian + 46.9% Lithuanian @ 4.19
17 75.2% Southwest_Russian + 24.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.22
18 75.5% Southwest_Russian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.24
19 80.4% Southwest_Russian + 19.6% Erzya @ 4.26
20 98% Southwest_Russian + 2% Dolgan @ 4.27

3. Their son kit# F196332 (50% Jewish, 50% Russian)

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Population
North_Sea 18.44
Atlantic 14.11
Baltic 17.56
Eastern_Euro 13.05
West_Med 7.88
West_Asian 9.53
East_Med 12.20
Red_Sea 3.13
South_Asian 0.15
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.64
Amerindian 0.76
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.54
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.77
2 Romanian 6.74
3 Moldavian 6.85
4 Hungarian 8.69
5 Croatian 8.9
6 Bulgarian 9.4
7 Austrian 10.11
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.28
9 East_German 13.61
10 South_Polish 13.95
11 Ukrainian 14.33
12 Greek_Thessaly 15.89
13 Polish 16.52
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.53
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.85
16 Southwest_Russian 16.98
17 Greek 17.3
18 Southwest_Finnish 18.06
19 Finnish 18.06
20 West_German 18.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.6% Estonian + 48.4% Central_Greek @ 3.2
2 75.7% Romanian + 24.3% East_Finnish @ 3.24
3 50.2% Estonian + 49.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.3
4 52.4% Estonian + 47.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.4
5 50.4% Estonian + 49.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.6
6 66% Finnish + 34% Cyprian @ 3.62
7 53.8% East_Finnish + 46.2% Central_Greek @ 3.63
8 75.8% Romanian + 24.2% Finnish @ 3.67
9 67.9% Bulgarian + 32.1% East_Finnish @ 3.71
10 55.5% Estonian + 44.5% South_Italian @ 3.71
11 67.2% Bulgarian + 32.8% Finnish @ 3.75
12 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.81
13 79.5% Hungarian + 20.5% Turkish @ 3.85
14 54.7% East_Finnish + 45.3% East_Sicilian @ 3.91
15 78.7% Romanian + 21.3% Erzya @ 3.91
16 54.7% Finnish + 45.3% Central_Greek @ 3.92
17 60.1% South_Polish + 39.9% Ashkenazi @ 3.94
18 83.8% Hungarian + 16.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.94
19 80.9% Hungarian + 19.1% Azeri @ 3.94
20 54.2% Greek_Thessaly + 45.8% East_Finnish @ 3.94

4. Their son's wife kit# M101426 (Russian, from Voronezh (paternal line))

Spoiler!

Population
North_Sea 14.87
Atlantic 15.93
Baltic 32.55
Eastern_Euro 22.67
West_Med 4.59
West_Asian 3.64
East_Med 2.13
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.59
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.81
Amerindian 0.22
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 4.82
2 Estonian_Polish 4.85
3 Russian_Smolensk 5.28
4 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.33
5 Belorussian 5.39
6 Lithuanian 7.05
7 Polish 8.49
8 Kargopol_Russian 8.71
9 Erzya 9.28
10 South_Polish 9.34
11 Ukrainian 9.53
12 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.28
13 Estonian 10.94
14 Croatian 13.43
15 East_Finnish 14.21
16 Moldavian 15.29
17 Finnish 16.47
18 Hungarian 17.41
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.68
20 Austrian 18.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.1% Estonian_Polish + 3.9% Selkup @ 4
2 96.9% Estonian_Polish + 3.1% Dolgan @ 4.02
3 97.1% Estonian_Polish + 2.9% Evenki @ 4.02
4 96.1% Estonian_Polish + 3.9% Ket @ 4.03
5 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Evens @ 4.03
6 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Yakut @ 4.06
7 71.3% Russian_Smolensk + 28.7% Erzya @ 4.08
8 96.4% Estonian_Polish + 3.6% Saqqaq @ 4.08
9 96.9% Estonian_Polish + 3.1% Koryak @ 4.12
10 94.3% Estonian_Polish + 5.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.14
11 97.2% Estonian_Polish + 2.8% Oroqen @ 4.15
12 95.8% Estonian_Polish + 4.2% Hakas @ 4.15
13 96.6% Estonian_Polish + 3.4% Tuvinian @ 4.16
14 96.8% Estonian_Polish + 3.2% Buryat @ 4.16
15 96.2% Estonian_Polish + 3.8% Altaian @ 4.17
16 77.1% Estonian_Polish + 22.9% Erzya @ 4.18
17 95.7% Estonian_Polish + 4.3% Shors @ 4.2
18 95.2% Belorussian + 4.8% Selkup @ 4.2
19 97% Estonian_Polish + 3% Chukchi @ 4.2
20 71.1% Belorussian + 28.9% Erzya @ 4.22

5. Their son's son kit# M205613 (25% Jewish, 75% Russian)

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Population
North_Sea 15.81
Atlantic 16.53
Baltic 26.22
Eastern_Euro 15.97
West_Med 6.26
West_Asian 7.50
East_Med 7.69
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.73
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.07
Amerindian 1.23
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 6.1
2 Moldavian 7.56
3 South_Polish 7.6
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.9
5 Russian_Smolensk 8.27
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.46
7 Ukrainian 8.56
8 Southwest_Russian 8.9
9 Polish 9.63
10 Hungarian 10.15
11 Belorussian 10.59
12 Austrian 10.83
13 Estonian_Polish 10.88
14 Serbian 12.68
15 Kargopol_Russian 12.96
16 Romanian 13.69
17 Lithuanian 13.8
18 Estonian 14.14
19 East_German 14.25
20 Erzya 14.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Southwest_Russian + 35.7% Bulgarian @ 3.15
2 66.3% Russian_Smolensk + 33.7% Bulgarian @ 3.22
3 81.1% Russian_Smolensk + 18.9% South_Italian @ 3.23
4 79.4% Russian_Smolensk + 20.6% Central_Greek @ 3.29
5 84.7% Russian_Smolensk + 15.3% Cyprian @ 3.31
6 75.7% Russian_Smolensk + 24.3% Greek @ 3.34
7 52.8% Lithuanian + 47.2% Bulgarian @ 3.36
8 59.8% Belorussian + 40.2% Bulgarian @ 3.36
9 74.1% Southwest_Russian + 25.9% Greek @ 3.42
10 83.2% Russian_Smolensk + 16.8% Turkish @ 3.43
11 79.9% Southwest_Russian + 20.1% South_Italian @ 3.43
12 75.7% Russian_Smolensk + 24.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.48
13 80.1% Russian_Smolensk + 19.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.52
14 66% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 34% Bulgarian @ 3.52
15 61.8% Southwest_Russian + 38.2% Romanian @ 3.55
16 85.9% Russian_Smolensk + 14.1% Assyrian @ 3.55
17 63.9% Russian_Smolensk + 36.1% Romanian @ 3.56
18 85.2% Russian_Smolensk + 14.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.61
19 50.2% Romanian + 49.8% Lithuanian @ 3.61
20 77.8% Southwest_Russian + 22.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.64

6. Their son's daughter kit# M101814 (25% Jewish, 75% Russian)

Spoiler!

Population
North_Sea 17.44
Atlantic 16.90
Baltic 23.26
Eastern_Euro 17.11
West_Med 6.85
West_Asian 5.96
East_Med 9.66
Red_Sea 0.11
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.59
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.12
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 5.58
2 Moldavian 6.8
3 South_Polish 8.17
4 Hungarian 8.5
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.67
6 Ukrainian 8.98
7 Austrian 9.04
8 Russian_Smolensk 9.93
9 Polish 10.15
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.17
11 Southwest_Russian 10.3
12 Serbian 10.33
13 Belorussian 12
14 Estonian_Polish 12.2
15 Romanian 12.3
16 East_German 12.72
17 Kargopol_Russian 13
18 Bulgarian 14.23
19 East_Finnish 14.31
20 Estonian 14.57


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.2% Southwest_Russian + 25.8% West_Sicilian @ 3.16
2 61% Estonian + 39% Greek @ 3.32
3 72% Southwest_Russian + 28% Tuscan @ 3.36
4 73.4% Southwest_Russian + 26.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.36
5 76.4% Southwest_Russian + 23.6% South_Italian @ 3.6
6 81.1% Polish + 18.9% Cyprian @ 3.65
7 55% Southwest_Russian + 45% Romanian @ 3.65
8 69.7% Southwest_Russian + 30.3% Greek @ 3.68
9 70.1% Belorussian + 29.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.68
10 50.6% Bulgarian + 49.4% Estonian @ 3.69
11 50.1% Southwest_Russian + 49.9% Serbian @ 3.71
12 58.8% Southwest_Russian + 41.2% Bulgarian @ 3.74
13 83.1% Polish + 16.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.74
14 78.3% Southwest_Russian + 21.7% Italian_Jewish @ 3.74
15 74.4% Southwest_Russian + 25.6% Central_Greek @ 3.8
16 79.1% Russian_Smolensk + 20.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.82
17 50.7% Belorussian + 49.3% Romanian @ 3.83
18 70.9% Belorussian + 29.1% Central_Greek @ 3.84
19 69.8% Estonian_Polish + 30.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.85
20 75% Southwest_Russian + 25% East_Sicilian @ 3.85

7. Their son's nephew kit# F205198

Spoiler!

Population
North_Sea 16.54
Atlantic 7.23
Baltic 21.66
Eastern_Euro 14.77
West_Med 8.31
West_Asian 15.63
East_Med 7.43
Red_Sea 2.19
South_Asian 2.76
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.93
Amerindian 0.93
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.61
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 8.89
2 Croatian 12.32
3 Romanian 12.77
4 Serbian 13.64
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.68
6 Hungarian 14.07
7 Bulgarian 14.37
8 Ukrainian 14.83
9 South_Polish 15.22
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.49
11 Southwest_Russian 16.55
12 Austrian 16.81
13 Russian_Smolensk 17.29
14 Polish 18.04
15 Tatar 18.42
16 East_German 18.63
17 Kargopol_Russian 18.71
18 Erzya 18.91
19 Belorussian 19.39
20 Estonian_Polish 19.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 30.9% Kumyk @ 4.41
2 67.2% Ukrainian + 32.8% Kumyk @ 4.53
3 74.2% Ukrainian + 25.8% Georgian @ 4.86
4 77.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.7% Abhkasian @ 4.88
5 75.6% Ukrainian + 24.4% Abhkasian @ 4.88
6 75.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 24.1% Georgian @ 4.9
7 71.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 28.3% Balkar @ 4.97
8 72.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 27.5% Adygei @ 5.03
9 71% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29% Kabardin @ 5.05
10 70.7% Ukrainian + 29.3% Adygei @ 5.18
11 69.9% Ukrainian + 30.1% Balkar @ 5.18
12 73.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.1% Ossetian @ 5.19
13 70.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 29.8% Lezgin @ 5.26
14 69.2% Ukrainian + 30.8% Kabardin @ 5.27
15 72.2% Ukrainian + 27.8% Ossetian @ 5.34
16 80.9% Moldavian + 19.1% Lezgin @ 5.43
17 81.6% Moldavian + 18.4% Kabardin @ 5.46
18 81.8% Moldavian + 18.2% Chechen @ 5.5
19 73.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 26.3% North_Ossetian @ 5.5
20 83.4% Moldavian + 16.6% North_Ossetian @ 5.5

K13:
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.9% Kargopol_Russian + 32.1% Armenian @ 3.19
2 67.5% Kargopol_Russian + 32.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.58
3 66.6% Southwest_Russian + 33.4% Turkish @ 3.59
4 67.9% Kargopol_Russian + 32.1% Assyrian @ 3.62
5 71.4% Southwest_Russian + 28.6% Armenian @ 3.72
6 57.5% Lithuanian + 42.5% Turkish @ 3.82
7 67.4% Estonian_Polish + 32.6% Armenian @ 3.84
8 67% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 33% Turkish @ 3.91
9 62.3% Estonian_Polish + 37.7% Turkish @ 3.95
10 72.3% Ukrainian + 27.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.1
11 71.5% Ukrainian + 28.5% Iranian @ 4.16
12 71.1% Southwest_Russian + 28.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.18
13 63.2% Russian_Smolensk + 36.8% Turkish @ 4.2
14 71.6% Ukrainian + 28.4% Kurdish @ 4.21
15 63% Kargopol_Russian + 37% Turkish @ 4.32
16 69.3% Ukrainian + 30.7% Azeri @ 4.32
17 62.9% Lithuanian + 37.1% Armenian @ 4.37
18 68.3% Russian_Smolensk + 31.7% Armenian @ 4.38
19 68% Southwest_Russian + 32% Azeri @ 4.39
20 67.1% Estonian_Polish + 32.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.4

[Leto]

The nephew seems to have some wog ancestry from the south.
Anyway, I could swamp this thread with DNA results of Russians but too many dots on the map would simply make it indiscernible. I will post a couple more though.

To add some multiculti and diversity to the PCA I'll post a half Kalmyk woman with her 1/4 Kalmyk son, a 1/4 Buryat woman and also a mixed Russian-Armenian family. Also, I had a part Chinese woman and daughter from the Far East of Russia. Hopefully none of those kits have been deleted.

[CommonSense]

20 - Momčilović (Serb)

It's typical Serbian surname, and he plots like Serb.

He is very close to me, just a bit to the northeast. I'm curious which part of ex-Yu he is from.

Oh, and that Montenegrin sample is a nice find too. It is looking more and more that they are fully within the Serbian cluster and that any people such as that woman I posted are outliers.