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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    He is talking about my match I posted who is Croat from Zadar, Kalember Serb is Commonsenses match.
    I see now.

    I don't know is there Croatian Kalember's.
    Serbian Kalember's from Lika carry clade of R1a which is typical for Chakavian Croatians and very rare among Serbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I see now.

    I don't know is there Croatian Kalember's.
    Serbian Kalember's from Lika carry clade of R1a which is typical for Chakavian Croatians and very rare among Serbs.
    Here's her PCA:



    She's eastern shifted on Dodecad k12b, more Caucasus and SW Asia compared to Atlantic Med. Quite a unique example since there's no logical explanation for her results, considering the region she's from.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 40.51
    2 Atlantic_Med 23.58
    3 Caucasus 22.3
    4 Southwest_Asian 6.98
    5 Gedrosia 4.53
    6 Northwest_African 0.79
    7 South_Asian 0.56
    8 East_Asian 0.55
    9 Southeast_Asian 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanians (Behar) 7.2
    2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 8.77
    3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.7
    4 Hungarians (Behar) 10.36
    5 German (Dodecad) 16.8
    6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 20.37
    7 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 21.76
    8 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 22.27
    9 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.6
    10 Dutch (Dodecad) 23.1
    11 Greek (Dodecad) 23.52
    12 Polish (Dodecad) 23.59
    13 French (Dodecad) 23.63
    14 French (HGDP) 23.92
    15 TSI30 (Metspalu) 24.71
    16 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 24.86
    17 Tuscan (HGDP) 25.13
    18 Kent (1000Genomes) 25.43
    19 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 25.5
    20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 25.52

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.8% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.38
    2 83.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.6% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.52
    3 80.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.86
    4 83.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.9% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 2.01
    5 56.3% Polish (Dodecad) + 43.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.25
    6 82.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 2.25
    7 83.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.26
    8 55.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 44.5% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.34
    9 55% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 45% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.41
    10 81.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 18.5% Syrians (Behar) @ 2.43
    11 83.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 2.47
    12 80.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 19.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.52
    13 82.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.9% Jordanians (Behar) @ 2.55
    14 83.2% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.58
    15 52.3% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 47.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.61
    16 82.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 17.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 2.61
    17 60.5% Polish (Dodecad) + 39.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 2.63
    18 53% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 47% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.64
    19 56.2% Polish (Dodecad) + 43.8% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 2.76
    20 82% Hungarians (Behar) + 18% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I see now.

    I don't know is there Croatian Kalember's.
    Serbian Kalember's from Lika carry clade of R1a which is typical for Chakavian Croatians and very rare among Serbs.
    And which is that ?

    Edit: I see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    And which is that ?

    Edit: I see.
    That is so called Carpathian-Dalmatian R1a. This branch of R1a is quite common among Chakavian Croatians and very rare among Serbs and Shtokavian Croatians. Only Krajina Serbs have little higher Carthathian-Dalmatian R1a, even among them is not more than 5%.
    Few Serbs which carry R1a-Z280>Y2613 are probably former Croatians, like hundreds of thousands Croatian which carry I2-PH908 are former Serbs (R1a-Z280>Y2613 = proto-Croatian marker / I2-PH908= proto-Serbian marker).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    That is so called Carpathian-Dalmatian R1a. This branch of R1a is quite common among Chakavian Croatians and very rare among Serbs and Shtokavian Croatians. Only Krajina Serbs have little higher Carthathian-Dalmatian R1a, even among them is not more than 5%.
    Few Serbs which carry R1a-Z280>Y2613 are probably former Croatians, like hundreds of thousands Croatian which carry I2-PH908 are former Serbs (R1a-Z280>Y2613 = proto-Croatian marker / I2-PH908= proto-Serbian marker).
    There is no PH908 among Sorbs, read Jana mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    There is no PH908 among Sorbs, read Jana mate.
    So what?
    Proto-Serbs were not from Lusatia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    So what?
    Proto-Serbs were not from Lusatia.
    Sorbs / lužički SRBI are their direct descendants. But now you don't like it because they have absolutely no PH908. Sorry mate, that's a fact you will have to deal with.

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