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    Do you guys know which tribes from Hercegovina/CG are represented among Serbs from Bosanska Krajina and Croatia? Drobnjaci seem to dominate...I know that the surname Drobnjak is even found in Banija. What about the Banjani? Which others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galerius View Post
    How does that affect South Slavic moral agenda? For example I've seen Albanians insulting Slavs are "people without their own home" i.e conquerors etc..
    Would you rather live in your pra-ancient territory (Belarus, Ukraine) than on conquered territory you took from those Paleo-Balkan people? Do Serbs even remotely
    care about that? Like.. does it feel bad living in paleo-balkan cities like Singidunum that you renamed to Belgrade knowing it wasn't your city before your conquered it?
    Dude, I know you're a new member, etc. but that's pure bullshit. South Slavs formed as a distinct entity in Southeastern Europe. That happened around 1,500 years ago, how can you imply they're "foreign"? If we go by this logic, Romanians are just as foreign, since they also have a lot of Slavic blood and even their language originated in the Italian peninsula and was brought there by the Roman conquerors. Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Dude, I know you're a new member, etc. but that's pure bullshit. South Slavs formed as a distinct entity in Southeastern Europe. That happened around 1,500 years ago, how can you imply they're "foreign"? If we go by this logic, Romanians are just as foreign, since they also have a lot of Slavic blood and even their language originated in the Italian peninsula and was brought there by the Roman conquerors. Ridiculous.
    Well they are fighting with that agenda with Albanians which is why I am asking if that thing has sparked outrage among Serbian populace. I don't consider Serbs foreign on Balkans by any means. That was long ago
    as you say, but still can be used by some to discredit Serbs (i.e. Albanians).

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuercusRobur View Post
    We have both Slavic and paleo-Balkan genetics.
    Paleo-Balkan genetic among Serbs ranges between 20%-55%, depending of individuals (based on FTDNA autosomal results).

    For example, how can 63% of me go back to Ukraine, and 36% stay at Balkans?
    Commercial companies are unreliable, you need ancient samples to accurately measure such stuff. Look in my sig, 90% Eastern European.
    It's less Slavic blood than that for sure. Bronze Age Dalmatian sample was around 40% and more in modern Croats when compared with Belarusian as proxy for Slavic input, in Serbs it would be above 50%-60% range.

    It's probable that most South Slavs are more native than Slavic, and those who are more Slavic are just by a little bit.
    Paleo-Balkanites in western Balkans already had some northern admixture, they weren't Cypriots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Soldo View Post
    Do you guys know which tribes from Hercegovina/CG are represented among Serbs from Bosanska Krajina and Croatia? Drobnjaci seem to dominate...I know that the surname Drobnjak is even found in Banija. What about the Banjani? Which others?
    Banjani are most numerous in Lika.
    9 Serbian surnames from Lika are N-P189.2 and they originated from Banjani. One of them is surname Banjanin.

    Drobnjaci are most numerous among Serbs from Dalmatia.

    Banija and Kordun Serbs except connection with Eastern and Old Herzegovina have connection with Central Bosnia. I heard that on Poreklo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Banjani are most numerous in Lika.
    9 Serbian surnames from Lika are N-P189.2 and they originated from Banjani. One of them is surname Banjanin.

    Drobnjaci are most numerous among Serbs from Dalmatia.

    Banija and Kordun Serbs except connection with Eastern and Old Herzegovina have connection with Central Bosnia. I heard that on Poreklo.
    Interesting

    Vlachs in Herzegovina were surnamed Pliščić, Gleđević, Ugarac, Boban, Mirilović, Vragović, Kresojević, Nenković, Bančić, Pilatovac, Pocrnja, Drobnjak and Riđani.
    So those people are Vlachs like Romanians, or is it something else?

    What Y-DNA Drobnjaks have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galerius View Post
    Interesting

    Vlachs in Herzegovina were surnamed Pliščić, Gleđević, Ugarac, Boban, Mirilović, Vragović, Kresojević, Nenković, Bančić, Pilatovac, Pocrnja, Drobnjak and Riđani.
    So those people are Vlachs like Romanians, or is it something else?

    What Y-DNA Drobnjaks have?
    Drobnjaks are I1-P109.

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    There's a distinctive South Slavic genetic cluster ranging from Slovenes (who are our link with most southern North Slavs : Czechs and Slovaks) to North Macedonians and Bulgarians.
    North Slavs have their own cluster from Czech to Russian which is very wide.

    It was well displayed on East and Central European PCA I was making other day. South Slavs are mestizos in a way, close to half northern half southern on average.
    North Slavs while mixed as well are still closer to original Slavic tribes.

    No reason to lump us all togheder because we're pretty different people but related ofcourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Drobnjaks are I1-P109.
    What about others:

    Pliščić, Gleđević, Ugarac, Boban, Mirilović, Vragović, Kresojević, Nenković, Bančić, Pilatovac, Pocrnja

    are they common in Herzegovina?

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