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    Quote Originally Posted by pelikarski View Post
    Some Bulgarians from Thrace have very low NE component,
    Do you have any other results from Thrace?
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Harappaworld?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy1 View Post
    Harappaworld?
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Euro 28.9
    2 Caucasian 28.29
    3 Mediterranean 22.8
    4 Baloch 9.28
    5 SW-Asian 8.12
    6 American 1.37
    7 SE-Asian 0.54
    8 Beringian 0.3
    9 NE-Asian 0.22
    10 W-African 0.1
    11 Papuan 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 7.69
    2 romanian-a (behar) 8.19
    3 tuscan (1000genomes) 10.49
    4 tuscan (hgdp) 10.73
    5 tuscan (hapmap) 11.25
    6 ashkenazi (harappa) 11.93
    7 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 14.99
    8 italian (hgdp) 15.29
    9 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 19.46
    10 sephardic-jew (behar) 21.86
    11 hungarian (behar) 22.59
    12 morocco-jew (behar) 22.79
    13 slovenian (xing) 23.99
    14 french (hgdp) 24.91
    15 romanian-b (behar) 25.58
    16 spaniard (behar) 25.76
    17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 26.03
    18 nogai (yunusbayev) 26.58
    19 stalskoe (xing) 26.64
    20 spaniard (1000genomes) 26.79

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55.6% british (1000genomes) + 44.4% druze (hgdp) @ 2.29
    2 57% utahn-white (1000genomes) + 43% druze (hgdp) @ 2.46
    3 53.9% orcadian (hgdp) + 46.1% druze (hgdp) @ 2.59
    4 50.8% cypriot (behar) + 49.2% n-european (xing) @ 2.68
    5 51.7% cypriot (behar) + 48.3% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.83
    6 56.8% hungarian (behar) + 43.2% cypriot (behar) @ 2.98
    7 81.4% romanian-a (behar) + 18.6% palestinian (harappa) @ 3.12
    8 83.5% romanian-a (behar) + 16.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 3.14
    9 83.4% romanian-a (behar) + 16.6% iraq-jew (behar) @ 3.18
    10 80.6% romanian-a (behar) + 19.4% lebanese (behar) @ 3.21
    11 66.1% romanian-a (behar) + 33.9% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 3.28
    12 83.7% romanian-a (behar) + 16.3% iranian-jew (behar) @ 3.28
    13 81.6% romanian-a (behar) + 18.4% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 3.29
    14 81.1% romanian-a (behar) + 18.9% armenian (harappa) @ 3.34
    15 82% romanian-a (behar) + 18% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 3.37
    16 74.3% romanian-a (behar) + 25.7% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 3.38
    17 83.4% romanian-a (behar) + 16.6% assyrian (harappa) @ 3.43
    18 81.8% romanian-a (behar) + 18.2% lebanese-muslim (haber) @ 3.44
    19 81.6% romanian-a (behar) + 18.4% syrian (behar) @ 3.45
    20 51% cypriot (behar) + 49% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 3.51
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    He has too high East Asian (East Asian+Siberian+Amerindian) on K13.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thracian View Post
    He has too high East Asian (East Asian+Siberian+Amerindian) on K13.
    I realized. His all known ancestors are Bulgarian and only Bulgarian speaker. He is Orthodox and has Bulgarian name. There is no clue to trace remarkable Turkic ancestry.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    I realized. His all known ancestors are Bulgarian and only Bulgarian speaker. He is Orthodox and has Bulgarian name. There is no clue to trace remarkable Turkic ancestry.
    Many Bulgarians with ancestry from Eastern Thrace have ancestry from other ethnicities. Despite having Bulgarian identify

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    Quote Originally Posted by pelikarski View Post
    Many Bulgarians with ancestry from Eastern Thrace have ancestry from other ethnicities. Despite having Bulgarian identify
    The people in Eastern Thrace who identify themselves as Bulgarian clearly distinguish from Greeks and they got Bulgarian as closest population because they lack high med and NA scores. We need more results to make more clear comments. I agree they have less NE but still Bulgarian range imo.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    This is a Bulgarian from Strandza in Thrace:

    Eurogenes K13:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 25.8
    2 Baltic 21.19
    3 West_Med 20.72
    4 North_Atlantic 16.58
    5 West_Asian 12.14
    6 South_Asian 1.54
    7 Red_Sea 1.49
    8 Siberian 0.53

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
    2 Bulgarian 7.71
    3 Romanian 10.55
    4 Central_Greek 11.06
    5 East_Sicilian 12.42
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.95
    7 Ashkenazi 13.46
    8 West_Sicilian 13.64
    9 Tuscan 14.43
    10 Serbian 14.7
    11 South_Italian 15.25
    12 North_Italian 17.62
    13 Moldavian 19.29
    14 Algerian_Jewish 20.02
    15 Italian_Jewish 20.45
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.92
    17 Croatian 22.37
    18 Hungarian 22.84
    19 Tunisian_Jewish 24.06
    20 Libyan_Jewish 24.43

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79% Bulgarian + 21% Cyprian @ 4.14
    2 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Erzya @ 4.35
    3 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.5
    4 91.3% Greek_Thessaly + 8.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.51
    5 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.52
    6 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.54
    7 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Samaritan @ 4.55
    8 68.1% Greek_Thessaly + 31.9% Bulgarian @ 4.58
    9 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.59
    10 67.1% Bulgarian + 32.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.6
    11 93.2% Greek_Thessaly + 6.8% Lithuanian @ 4.61
    12 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.63
    13 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.67
    14 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian @ 4.68
    15 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Belorussian @ 4.68
    16 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Chuvash @ 4.71
    17 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Moldavian @ 4.77
    18 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.78
    19 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Mari @ 4.81
    20 93% Greek_Thessaly + 7% Polish @ 4.83


    Eurogenes K15:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 25.8
    2 Baltic 21.19
    3 West_Med 20.72
    4 North_Atlantic 16.58
    5 West_Asian 12.14
    6 South_Asian 1.54
    7 Red_Sea 1.49
    8 Siberian 0.53

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 5.42
    2 Bulgarian 7.71
    3 Romanian 10.55
    4 Central_Greek 11.06
    5 East_Sicilian 12.42
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.95
    7 Ashkenazi 13.46
    8 West_Sicilian 13.64
    9 Tuscan 14.43
    10 Serbian 14.7
    11 South_Italian 15.25
    12 North_Italian 17.62
    13 Moldavian 19.29
    14 Algerian_Jewish 20.02
    15 Italian_Jewish 20.45
    16 Sephardic_Jewish 20.92
    17 Croatian 22.37
    18 Hungarian 22.84
    19 Tunisian_Jewish 24.06
    20 Libyan_Jewish 24.43

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79% Bulgarian + 21% Cyprian @ 4.14
    2 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Erzya @ 4.35
    3 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.5
    4 91.3% Greek_Thessaly + 8.7% Southwest_Russian @ 4.51
    5 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.52
    6 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.54
    7 83.2% Bulgarian + 16.8% Samaritan @ 4.55
    8 68.1% Greek_Thessaly + 31.9% Bulgarian @ 4.58
    9 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.59
    10 67.1% Bulgarian + 32.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.6
    11 93.2% Greek_Thessaly + 6.8% Lithuanian @ 4.61
    12 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.63
    13 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.67
    14 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Ukrainian @ 4.68
    15 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Belorussian @ 4.68
    16 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Chuvash @ 4.71
    17 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Moldavian @ 4.77
    18 91.7% Greek_Thessaly + 8.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.78
    19 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% Mari @ 4.81
    20 93% Greek_Thessaly + 7% Polish @ 4.83

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    Eurogenes K15:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 23.52
    2 Baltic 17.16
    3 Atlantic 17.02
    4 West_Med 14.81
    5 West_Asian 11.28
    6 Eastern_Euro 7.16
    7 North_Sea 5.96
    8 Red_Sea 1.96
    9 South_Asian 1.15

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek 6.15
    2 Bulgarian 8.89
    3 Greek_Thessaly 10.37
    4 Romanian 12.12
    5 Central_Greek 12.17
    6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.77
    7 West_Sicilian 13.07
    8 East_Sicilian 13.12
    9 Ashkenazi 13.17
    10 Tuscan 13.9
    11 South_Italian 14.28
    12 Serbian 15.87
    13 North_Italian 17.42
    14 Sephardic_Jewish 18.37
    15 Italian_Jewish 18.49
    16 Algerian_Jewish 18.75
    17 Moldavian 19.63
    18 Croatian 20.69
    19 Austrian 21.16
    20 Tunisian_Jewish 21.72

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90.8% Greek + 9.2% Lithuanian @ 5.14
    2 90.5% Greek + 9.5% Belorussian @ 5.26
    3 89.9% Greek + 10.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.29
    4 90.7% Greek + 9.3% Estonian_Polish @ 5.3
    5 90.4% Greek + 9.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.38
    6 90.7% Greek + 9.3% Southwest_Russian @ 5.39
    7 91.8% Greek + 8.2% Polish @ 5.58
    8 92.9% Greek + 7.1% Erzya @ 5.62
    9 91.5% Greek + 8.5% South_Polish @ 5.64
    10 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Estonian @ 5.65
    11 93.1% Greek + 6.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.68
    12 91.9% Greek + 8.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.7
    13 89.7% Greek + 10.3% Croatian @ 5.71
    14 92.2% Greek + 7.8% Ukrainian @ 5.71
    15 75.6% Greek + 24.4% Bulgarian @ 5.75
    16 94% Greek + 6% La_Brana-1 @ 5.78
    17 91.5% Greek + 8.5% Moldavian @ 5.89
    18 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Austrian @ 5.92
    19 95.5% Greek + 4.5% East_Finnish @ 5.95
    20 96.1% Greek + 3.9% Finnish @ 6


    puntDNAL K13:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 SW_Europe 35.32
    2 NE_Europe 29.36
    3 West_Asia 20.74
    4 SW_Asia 10.86
    5 NE_Asia 1.74
    6 South_Asia 1.37
    7 Oceania 0.45
    8 South_Africa 0.16
    9 East_Africa 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Kosovar 3.77
    2 Albanian 4.01
    3 Greek_Thessaly 4.34
    4 Bulgarian 4.73
    5 Macedonian 5.48
    6 Italian_Tuscan 6.48
    7 Romanian 6.74
    8 Montenegrin 7.67
    9 Greek_Central 8.48
    10 Italian_Abruzzo 9.77
    11 Serbian 10.13
    12 Italian_Bergamo 11.05
    13 Ashkenazy_Jew 13.32
    14 Bosnian 13.83
    15 Italian_Sicilian 14.63
    16 Moldavian 15.65
    17 Croatian 15.82
    18 Spaniard 16.35
    19 French 17.46
    20 Sephardic_Jew 17.88

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58.8% French + 41.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 1.67
    2 55.7% French + 44.3% Turkish @ 1.7
    3 82.7% Macedonian + 17.3% Turkish_Kayseri @ 1.75
    4 80.8% Macedonian + 19.2% Turkish @ 1.8
    5 87.5% Bulgarian + 12.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.01
    6 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Samaritan_Jew @ 2.01
    7 87.9% Bulgarian + 12.1% Jordanian @ 2.03
    8 59.8% Romanian + 40.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.05
    9 87.2% Bulgarian + 12.8% Syrian @ 2.05
    10 87.6% Bulgarian + 12.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.06
    11 87.8% Bulgarian + 12.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.07
    12 86% Bulgarian + 14% Cypriot @ 2.08
    13 88.7% Bulgarian + 11.3% Palestinian @ 2.12
    14 69.4% Romanian + 30.6% Italian_Sicilian @ 2.13
    15 80.8% Bulgarian + 19.2% Sephardic_Jew @ 2.13
    16 75.7% Bulgarian + 24.3% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 2.15
    17 66.1% Bulgarian + 33.9% Greek_Central @ 2.17
    18 67.3% Romanian + 32.7% Ashkenazy_Jew @ 2.18
    19 56.2% Romanian + 43.8% Greek_Central @ 2.19
    20 85.9% Macedonian + 14.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***** View Post
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    Thank you. Not sure but i think with these med scores we can assume s/he has Greek admixture. 20-22 East med and 17-18 west med is typical for Bulgarians but 25-20... Eh i'm not sure.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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