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Thread: Eurogenes Averages For Various Jewish Groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Was she born in Morocco?
    Yes. In a small village in the Midelt province of Central Morocco (Her parents are not from there, also her results will be a bit atypical Euro-shifted for Central Morocco).

    Here is the thread about her results if you want to revisit it (there are also pictures of her) https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...3andme-Results

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    Some are actually closer to Georgian Jews after all. Others are to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. But all of them score Assyrian first in the single population sharing.

    #1
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 36.68
    2 West_Asian 30.03
    3 West_Med 13.55
    4 Red_Sea 9.87
    5 South_Asian 4.84
    6 Baltic 3.1
    7 Amerindian 0.63
    8 North_Atlantic 0.47
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.37
    10 Siberian 0.28
    11 Northeast_African 0.17


    #2
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 40.27
    2 West_Asian 30.98
    3 West_Med 9.58
    4 Red_Sea 7.66
    5 North_Atlantic 4.41
    6 South_Asian 3.9
    7 Baltic 2.16
    8 East_Asian 0.83
    9 Oceanian 0.21


    3#
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 39.85
    2 West_Asian 33.08
    3 West_Med 10.13
    4 Red_Sea 8.54
    5 South_Asian 3.35
    6 North_Atlantic 1.83
    7 Baltic 1.36
    8 Siberian 0.71
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.61
    10 Northeast_African 0.54


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 39.29
    2 West_Asian 34.42
    3 Red_Sea 8.35
    4 West_Med 7.9
    5 South_Asian 4.52
    6 North_Atlantic 2.92
    7 Baltic 1.57
    8 Amerindian 0.47
    9 Northeast_African 0.28
    10 East_Asian 0.18
    11 Oceanian 0.1


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 36.95
    2 West_Asian 35.03
    3 West_Med 10.71
    4 Red_Sea 7.36
    5 South_Asian 5.43
    6 North_Atlantic 1.86
    7 Baltic 1.54
    8 Amerindian 0.84
    9 Oceanian 0.27


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 36.26
    2 West_Asian 34.13
    3 West_Med 11.73
    4 Red_Sea 8.23
    5 South_Asian 5.47
    6 North_Atlantic 2.95
    7 Amerindian 0.85
    8 Northeast_African 0.39


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    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 38.39
    2 West_Asian 34.45
    3 West_Med 10.3
    4 Red_Sea 7.04
    5 North_Atlantic 4.31
    6 South_Asian 3.22
    7 Amerindian 0.8
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.77
    9 Siberian 0.48
    10 East_Asian 0.22


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 38.92
    2 West_Asian 32.26
    3 West_Med 12.72
    4 Red_Sea 7.28
    5 North_Atlantic 3.85
    6 South_Asian 2.99
    7 Northeast_African 0.87
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.7
    9 Amerindian 0.22
    10 Oceanian 0.19


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 40.57
    2 West_Asian 31.59
    3 West_Med 9.52
    4 Red_Sea 7.81
    5 Baltic 3.76
    6 South_Asian 3.69
    7 Northeast_African 2.08
    8 Amerindian 0.48
    9 North_Atlantic 0.31
    10 Oceanian 0.17


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 37.53
    2 West_Asian 35.55
    3 West_Med 10.6
    4 Red_Sea 7.15
    5 South_Asian 4.87
    6 North_Atlantic 2.24
    7 East_Asian 0.96
    8 Oceanian 0.36
    9 Baltic 0.32
    10 Northeast_African 0.28
    11 Siberian 0.13

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    Quote Originally Posted by waam View Post
    Some are actually closer to Georgian Jews after all. Others are to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. But all of them score Assyrian first in the single population sharing.

    #1
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 36.68
    2 West_Asian 30.03
    3 West_Med 13.55
    4 Red_Sea 9.87
    5 South_Asian 4.84
    6 Baltic 3.1
    7 Amerindian 0.63
    8 North_Atlantic 0.47
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.37
    10 Siberian 0.28
    11 Northeast_African 0.17


    #2
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 40.27
    2 West_Asian 30.98
    3 West_Med 9.58
    4 Red_Sea 7.66
    5 North_Atlantic 4.41
    6 South_Asian 3.9
    7 Baltic 2.16
    8 East_Asian 0.83
    9 Oceanian 0.21


    3#
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 39.85
    2 West_Asian 33.08
    3 West_Med 10.13
    4 Red_Sea 8.54
    5 South_Asian 3.35
    6 North_Atlantic 1.83
    7 Baltic 1.36
    8 Siberian 0.71
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.61
    10 Northeast_African 0.54


    #4
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 39.29
    2 West_Asian 34.42
    3 Red_Sea 8.35
    4 West_Med 7.9
    5 South_Asian 4.52
    6 North_Atlantic 2.92
    7 Baltic 1.57
    8 Amerindian 0.47
    9 Northeast_African 0.28
    10 East_Asian 0.18
    11 Oceanian 0.1


    #5
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 36.95
    2 West_Asian 35.03
    3 West_Med 10.71
    4 Red_Sea 7.36
    5 South_Asian 5.43
    6 North_Atlantic 1.86
    7 Baltic 1.54
    8 Amerindian 0.84
    9 Oceanian 0.27


    #6
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 36.26
    2 West_Asian 34.13
    3 West_Med 11.73
    4 Red_Sea 8.23
    5 South_Asian 5.47
    6 North_Atlantic 2.95
    7 Amerindian 0.85
    8 Northeast_African 0.39


    #7
    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 38.39
    2 West_Asian 34.45
    3 West_Med 10.3
    4 Red_Sea 7.04
    5 North_Atlantic 4.31
    6 South_Asian 3.22
    7 Amerindian 0.8
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.77
    9 Siberian 0.48
    10 East_Asian 0.22


    #8
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 38.92
    2 West_Asian 32.26
    3 West_Med 12.72
    4 Red_Sea 7.28
    5 North_Atlantic 3.85
    6 South_Asian 2.99
    7 Northeast_African 0.87
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.7
    9 Amerindian 0.22
    10 Oceanian 0.19


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 40.57
    2 West_Asian 31.59
    3 West_Med 9.52
    4 Red_Sea 7.81
    5 Baltic 3.76
    6 South_Asian 3.69
    7 Northeast_African 2.08
    8 Amerindian 0.48
    9 North_Atlantic 0.31
    10 Oceanian 0.17


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 37.53
    2 West_Asian 35.55
    3 West_Med 10.6
    4 Red_Sea 7.15
    5 South_Asian 4.87
    6 North_Atlantic 2.24
    7 East_Asian 0.96
    8 Oceanian 0.36
    9 Baltic 0.32
    10 Northeast_African 0.28
    11 Siberian 0.13
    Someone told me that Mizrahi Jews are converted Assyrians, but I guess it's like saying Ashkenazim are just converted Sicilians.
    But indeed it seems Mizrahi aren't pure Judean as well, they mixed with local Mesopotamians and Western Asians.
    I guess original Judeans are long gone.... Samaritans are the closest thing we have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waam View Post
    Some are actually closer to Georgian Jews after all. Others are to Iranian and Kurdish Jews. But all of them score Assyrian first in the single population sharing.
    Interesting. They originally spoke an Iranic language. Are they mostly assimilated now in Israel? There are almost none left in the North Caucasus now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp_loa View Post
    Someone told me that Mizrahi Jews are converted Assyrians, but I guess it's like saying Ashkenazim are just converted Sicilians.
    But indeed it seems Mizrahi aren't pure Judean as well, they mixed with local Mesopotamians and Western Asians.
    I guess original Judeans are long gone.... Samaritans are the closest thing we have.
    I doubt they are converted Assyrians but certainly have mixed with them. I actually think contrary to popular belief on these forums that Iraqi Jews would be mostly of Judean ancestry, or at least the most ethnically Jewish out of all the Mizrahi diaspora populations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Interesting. They originally spoke an Iranic language. Are they mostly assimilated now in Israel? There are almost none left in the North Caucasus now.
    Yeah the elderly still speak it today. It's called Juhuri which literally means "Jewish" and is closely related to Farsi. Many still marry between themselves but yeah mostly assimilated. it's hard to explain exactly to a foreigner who isn't familliar with Israeli identity politics, but the situation with our classification in society is kind of complicated. On the one hand we are Mizrahi and identify as such, on the other we are part of the Russian Aliyah so some would classify us (or themselves) as "Russian." I've had a few instances when asked about my background and replied "Mountain Jewish" the other person would say "Well just say Russian then." Yeah complicated...

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    Quote Originally Posted by waam View Post
    Yeah the elderly still speak it today. It's called Juhuri which literally means "Jewish" and is closely related to Farsi. Many still marry between themselves but yeah mostly assimilated. it's hard to explain exactly to a foreigner who isn't familliar with Israeli identity politics, but the situation with our classification in society is kind of complicated. On the one hand we are Mizrahi and identify as such, on the other we are part of the Russian Aliyah so some would classify us (or themselves) as "Russian." I've had a few instances when asked about my background and replied "Mountain Jewish" the other person would say "Well just say Russian then." Yeah complicated...
    Interesting... I actually don't know any mountain Jews in real life. Only very few georgian Jews when it comes to the Caucasus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sp_loa View Post
    Interesting... I actually don't know any mountain Jews in real life. Only very few georgian Jews when it comes to the Caucasus.
    Huh really... Where are you from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waam View Post
    Yeah the elderly still speak it today. It's called Juhuri which literally means "Jewish" and is closely related to Farsi. Many still marry between themselves but yeah mostly assimilated. it's hard to explain exactly to a foreigner who isn't familliar with Israeli identity politics, but the situation with our classification in society is kind of complicated. On the one hand we are Mizrahi and identify as such, on the other we are part of the Russian Aliyah so some would classify us (or themselves) as "Russian." I've had a few instances when asked about my background and replied "Mountain Jewish" the other person would say "Well just say Russian then." Yeah complicated...
    Wait, are you a Mountain Jew? I thought you were Sephardic.

    I think Maghrebi Jews are 100% assimilated now. By 1970 or around that time there were almost no Jews left in North Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waam View Post
    Huh really... Where are you from?
    Small place in the central. Most people here are mixed so it’s hard to find someone of pure something.
    There are even some full gentile families or half gentile families (with atypical things like half serbs or 3/4 siberians like WTF lol) where I live. Someone in my school is 50% ethnic gentile Iranian like HOW?!

    Most common thing here are ofcourse mixes Ashkenazi Jews, North African jews, Yemenite Jews, East Sephardi Jews (Bulgaria and Turkey), Iraqi, Syrian, Kurdish and Iranian Jews and that’s about it.

    Not really Jews from the Caucasus/Greece&Yugoslavia/Lebanon/Italy where I live.

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