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Thread: MAL'TA boy spoke IndoEuropeans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    An Uralic speaker in Hungary bares no resemblance to a an Altaic speaker in Japan, assuming that the Altaic macrofamily of languages exist.
    No. It doesn't. Even Uralic is being questioned by many linguists right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
    Very well, but this doesn't tell me what language she spoke, and I wouldn't classify her as a Turanid either. Turan was further east... much later in time.. and in the shadow of the Mongols.
    I didnt said she is Turanid. She is uralic and definetly not white caucasoid.

    Languange dosnt matter.Component is the most important. She is clearly ANE admixture.

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    ".. the Ket, an isolated population that speaks a Yeniseian language and which has previously been described as rich in ANE-ancestry and with genetic links to Paleoeskimos. ..... Our findings therefore reconcile the proposed linguistic link between the Yeniseian speaking Ket and Na-Dene speaking Athabascan populations."
    The Kets have the highest degree of the Mal’ta ancestry and the ANE component was acquired by ancestors of Kets in the Altai region, where the Bronze Age Okunevo culture existed. ANE contributed 30–40% to the gene pool of Native Americans and about 50% to the Yamnaya in the Pontic-Caspian steppe. The ANE language, which was spoken by MA-1 and his contemporaries in Siberia, is likely to be ancestral to the Proto-Indo-European and Native American languages and they shared some common grammatical rules. For instance, the earliest Indo-European languages had only two grammatical genders, animate and inanimate, which is similar to Native American languages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sailormoon View Post
    The Kets have the highest degree of the Mal’ta ancestry and the ANE component was acquired by ancestors of Kets in the Altai region, where the Bronze Age Okunevo culture existed. ANE contributed 30–40% to the gene pool of Native Americans and about 50% to the Yamnaya in the Pontic-Caspian steppe.
    The bastardization already began here.

    Quote Originally Posted by sailormoon View Post
    The ANE language, which was spoken by MA-1 and his contemporaries in Siberia, is likely to be ancestral to the Proto-Indo-European and Native American languages and they shared some common grammatical rules. For instance, the earliest Indo-European languages had only two grammatical genders, animate and inanimate, which is similar to Native American languages.
    "...the linguistic evidence from our family does not lead us beyond Gimbutas’ secondary homeland and that the Khvalynsk culture on the middle Volga and the Maykop culture in the northern Caucasus cannot be identified with the Indo-Europeans. Any proposal which goes beyond the Sredny Stog culture must start from the possible affinities of Indo-European with other language families. It is usually recognized that the best candidate in this respect is the Uralic language family, while further connections with the Altaic languages and perhaps even Dravidian are possible... What we do have to take into account is the typological similarity of Proto-Indo-European to the North-West Caucasian (i.e. Adyg) languages. If this similarity can be attributed to areal factors, we may think of Indo-European as a branch of Uralo-Altaic which was transformed under the influence of a Caucasian substratum. It now appears that this view is actually supported by the archaeological evidence. If it is correct, we may locate the earliest (Uralo-Altaic) ancestors of the speakers of Proto-Indo-European north of the Caspian Sea in the seventh millennium."

    [F.Kortlandt, Journal of Indo-European Studies, Volume 18, 1990, p.131]

    There is no common ancestor between us. PIE can only be regarded as a bastard language among language families. The result is Petros Houlhoulis epileptical attack.


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