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    Quote Originally Posted by North Sea View Post
    Your DNA LAND results are very similar btw , its just read differently. A lot of the Med Islander, South Central Europe and some South Western Europe can be added into Balkan . Its defi nitrly Paleo Balkan ancestry. I have seen ancient Balkan samples score these things and even Albanians. This would make you around 80% Balkan atleast same as that converted file.


    FTDNA is more ancient and the Iberia there can be added onto South Eastern Europe. The ASIA MINOR I am not sure about but maybe it too could be added. We used to get it on the old My Origin but not anymore. I just scored 100% South East Euro. This also would make you genetically quite native but with some Slavic.


    You are basically a Balkan person with some Slavic ancestry also. Similar to many South Slavs.

    MyHeritage is unreliable as their Balkan there is very vague but results there should also be something similar.
    Very interesting information, appreciate it. It makes more sense now. I am currently waiting on Y-DNA results, that may shed some light as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    You can send me your photo, I'm curious. You're only about 2% on GEDmatch. I get between 5 and 7% or so but nothing is visible phenotypically.
    I think I'll post some pictures later on definitely!

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    Quote Originally Posted by karakartal View Post
    I'm from Kilkis too. I'm a Balkan Turk.

    You must be mixed with Balkan Turks. Your Siberian score is the important score. Maybe you don't mix with Balkan Turks, your siberian score came proto Bulgars.
    i doubt. his siberian is pretty low for an east balkanite..nothing special

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sofia View Post
    That is very interesting. I also wanna add that the (2nd) oldest known paternal ancestor(late 19th century, early 20th century) is half Albanian & half Greek (don't know from where), the Greek part being his father. He was from a village in Bulgaria called Mandritsa (the only Albanian village in Bulgaria).

    When I was doing the DNA test I was secretly hoping to find Siberian DNA in my results as I am very fond of this geographic region and the native people there. Many people have told me I have East Asian look as well. I don't have epicanthic folds or anything striking, but just a vibe. Maybe something like Kaspias from here but he has A TON of Siberian, Central and East Asian DNA
    My paternal line is from the same place, Ortakoy (Mandritsa was part of it), now Ivaylovgrad. PM me your gedmatch kit no. plx, I want to check if we are related somehow, since I am also trying to find more info on this.

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    Cool results mate.

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    Welcome to the forum. It is good to see a Bulgarian in the genetics forum.

    I don't know if you saw but i also got huge Asia Minor in commercial companies' results. I thought it is about Turkmen admixture but apparently, Bulgarians get some too. MyHeritage and FTDNA using the same meta-algorithm with Gedmatch, calculates your result just as Gedmatch calculate your oracle's, giving you the result which gets the closest distance. Ancestry and 23andMe have their specific algorithm which is different than MH and FTDNA, which makes them more accurate. In this sense, i suggest taking MH and FTDNA results as a grain of salt. GEDMatch is always better.

    At first i should state you have huge North_Atlantic admixture for a Bulgarian. This makes me think about possible Vlach ancestry. But of course it can be totally random, do you have any ancestry from around Balkan Mountains or Northern-Central Bulgaria(around Veliko Tarnovo)? A mix of Bulgarian from these regions + Greek-Macedonian can give this result. Except that your Siberian is not that typical but still expected and cool.

    There is no direct element that makes us think you have Greek or Albanian ancestry. Their admixture must have been absorbed among the Bulgarian gene pool. The only question mark is about North Atlantic. It can be found in high amounts around Central Bulgaria, SW Bulgaria and Macedonia(whole region).


    And we have the same mt-DNA. H2a2a1 in Bulgarians most probably came from Proto-Bulgars, of course, this case is not the same for everyone and applies only for Bulgarians. Proto-Bulgar H2a2a1 sample found in a necropolis in Nojarevo, a Turk village between Razgrad and Silistra. Also in a Pomak village in Tuhovishte(Smolyan). (See: https://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol_preprints/69/) You can find spreading of H2a2a1 here: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2a2a1/
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    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    i doubt. his siberian is pretty low for an east balkanite..nothing special
    Isn't the Siberian a lot higher than any (East) Balkan ethnicity average on every GEDmatch calculator's spreadsheet, what do you mean?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Welcome to the forum. It is good to see a Bulgarian in the genetics forum.

    I don't know if you saw but i also got huge Asia Minor in commercial companies' results. I thought it is about Turkmen admixture but apparently, Bulgarians get some too. MyHeritage and FTDNA using the same meta-algorithm with Gedmatch, calculates your result just as Gedmatch calculate your oracle's, giving you the result which gets the closest distance. Ancestry and 23andMe have their specific algorithm which is different than MH and FTDNA, which makes them more accurate. In this sense, i suggest taking MH and FTDNA results as a grain of salt. GEDMatch is always better.

    At first i should state you have huge North_Atlantic admixture for a Bulgarian. This makes me think about possible Vlach ancestry. But of course it can be totally random, do you have any ancestry from around Balkan Mountains or Northern-Central Bulgaria(around Veliko Tarnovo)? A mix of Bulgarian from these regions + Greek-Macedonian can give this result. Except that your Siberian is not that typical but still expected and cool.

    There is no direct element that makes us think you have Greek or Albanian ancestry. Their admixture must have been absorbed among the Bulgarian gene pool. The only question mark is about North Atlantic. It can be found in high amounts around Central Bulgaria, SW Bulgaria and Macedonia(whole region).


    And we have the same mt-DNA. H2a2a1 in Bulgarians most probably came from Proto-Bulgars, of course, this case is not the same for everyone and applies only for Bulgarians. Proto-Bulgar H2a2a1 sample found in a necropolis in Nojarevo, a Turk village between Razgrad and Silistra. Also in a Pomak village in Tuhovishte(Smolyan). (See: https://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/humbiol_preprints/69/) You can find spreading of H2a2a1 here: https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2a2a1/
    Haha yeah, thanks for replying and high-five on the same haplogroup! Yeah, I noticed that 23andMe and Ancestry are better when it comes to autosomal analysis. Will probably do ancestry in the future as the matching is much better due to bigger database. The H2a2a1 spread is a bit weird, isn't it? Most people are from Denmark, Indonesia and The Philippines? Not sure how to read yfull fully, maybe not many people have submitted their data there?

    As far as Vlach ancestry - My maternal grandfather is from Vratsa region, don't know much about him. It seems that many people came to Mandritsa from Korçë, Albania which has a big Aromanian community but this was long ago(4 generations), since then he had a bulgarian wife from Panagyurishte where he settled and my father was the first to come in Sofia.

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    Mate, I don't know if you got my email but we match on ch15 with estimated generations to mrca=7.1. Will pm you, tomorrow, with more details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sofia View Post
    Isn't the Siberian a lot higher than any (East) Balkan ethnicity average on every GEDmatch calculator's spreadsheet, what do you mean?
    u only have 2% siberian...how is that high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    u only have 2% siberian...how is that high?
    He has 2.67% Siberian+East Asian+Amerindian on k13 and as a Balkan Turk I have 3.54% on same calculator. So, I think it is not too low.

    @Sofia, I think that you are northwestern shifted Bulgarian and your results are not too different. You can consider 20% Asia Minor as a Southeastern European on FTDNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    u only have 2% siberian...how is that high?
    who said it's high, are you high? I said it's higher than any balkan country avgs on gedmatch spreadsheets.

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