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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Relax my Vlach brother. I wanted to know, it has nothing to do with your result.
    I don't know why people Germanize every unknown Paleo European tribes, as somebody who ancestors hate Germans it make me mad to glorify these warriors as "Germans".

    They are nomads basically of Paleolithic Europe, Scythians Bronze Age nomads of Eurasia. These two distinct tribes met in Black Sea region and create offspring myself, you, other Eastern, Central, Balkan Europeans.

    This ethnogenesis has nothing with modern Germany or Northwest Europe like Peterski and these western Polaks pseudoscience claims.

    Also Kievan Rus, I'm almost certain that is Sunghir 6, I2 in Phylogeographer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVlachZyraxes View Post
    I don't know why people Germanize every unknown Paleo European tribes, as somebody who ancestors hate Germans it make me mad to glorify these warriors as "Germans".

    They are nomads basically of Paleolithic Europe, Scythians Bronze Age nomads of Eurasia. These two distinct tribes met in Black Sea region and create offspring myself, you, other Eastern, Central, Balkan Europeans.

    This ethnogenesis has nothing with modern Germany or Northwest Europe like Peterski and these western Polaks pseudoscience claims.

    Also Kievan Rus, I'm almost certain that is Sunghir 6, I2 in Phylogeographer.
    Well, these tribes knew nothing about "meta ethnicities" they were also illiterate. But you're right, all these tribes were originally from east Europe. Some mixed with indigenous westerners like the Saxons did and now you have western cucks of today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    Well, these tribes knew nothing about "meta ethnicities" they were also illiterate. But you're right, all these tribes were originally from east Europe. Some mixed with indigenous westerners like the Saxons did and now you have western cucks of today.
    This place Stari Vlah has 62% Paleo European Y-DNA! With I2 and I1 variety..

    That is impressive, but how did it happen.

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    BTW

    There is method for fast oracle making of existing reference from spreadsheet:

    G25ancient_unscaled("Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL53",k=60)
    G25ancient_unscaled("Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL53",mixedmode=T,k=60)

    [edited] it was some double bracket before

    Of course sample must be in spreadsheet before.
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    [1,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006" "0.0184"
    [2,] "Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av1" "0.0201"
    [3,] "Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569" "0.0204"
    [4,] "Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2" "0.0219"
    [5,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160" "0.0223"
    [6,] "Sunghir_Medieval:Sunghir6" "0.023"
    [7,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020" "0.0246"
    [8,] "Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29" "0.0254"
    [9,] "Beaker_Bavaria:I5531" "0.0255"
    [10,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036" "0.0259"
    [11,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026" "0.0265"
    [12,] "Scythian_Ukraine:scy009" "0.0267"
    [13,] "Lithuania_BA:Turlojiske3" "0.0276"
    [14,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021" "0.0283"
    [15,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005" "0.0283"
    [16,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035" "0.0284"
    [17,] "Poland_EBA:N17" "0.0292"
    [18,] "Varna_o:ANI163" "0.0295"
    [19,] "CWC_Poland:N49" "0.0304"
    [20,] "Beaker_Czech:I5025" "0.0304"
    [21,] "Scythian_HungaryA197" "0.0307"
    [22,] "Scythian_HungaryA191" "0.032"
    [23,] "Poland_EBA:I6579" "0.0322"
    [24,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001" "0.0326"
    [25,] "Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002" "0.033"
    [26,] "CWC_Baltic:MA973" "0.0346"
    [27,] "Czech_EBA:I5044" "0.0348"
    [28,] "CWC_Poland_o:N47" "0.035"
    [29,] "Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_220" "0.0351"
    [30,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ12" "0.0354"




    [1,] "53% Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ5 + 47% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153"
    [2,] "65.3% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 34.7% Maitan_MLBA_Alakul:I6797"
    [3,] "46.3% Slavic_Bohemia:RISE569 + 53.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
    [4,] "64.3% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 35.7% Srubnaya_MLBA:I0234"
    [5,] "51.3% England_IA:L-I0789 + 48.7% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153"
    [6,] "63.4% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 36.6% Krasnoyarsk_MLBA:I6716"
    [7,] "36.3% England_MBA:I7626 + 63.7% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [8,] "65.4% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 34.6% Scotland_CA_EBA:I2567"
    [9,] "24.1% Beaker_Bavaria:I5017 + 75.9% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
    [10,] "48.4% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153 + 51.6% Slovakia_Poprad_MedA119"
    [11,] "29.8% Kazakh_Mys_MLBA:I4321 + 70.2% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [12,] "53.3% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 46.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021"
    [13,] "21.3% Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD:KER_1 + 78.7% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
    [14,] "62% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 38% Sintashta_MLBA:I1018"
    [15,] "53.2% Beaker_Czech:I4896 + 46.8% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns209"
    [16,] "33.9% Kashkarchi_BA:I4153 + 66.1% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [17,] "33.7% Beaker_Britain:I6774 + 66.3% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [18,] "33.4% Aktogai_MLBA:I4265 + 66.6% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [19,] "67.3% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 32.7% Petrovka_MLBA:I0945"
    [20,] "58% Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ5 + 42% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns207"
    [21,] "37.9% Beaker_Czech:I7251 + 62.1% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [22,] "67.8% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 32.2% Sintashta_MLBA:I1029"
    [23,] "36% Beaker_Czech:I7269 + 64% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [24,] "36.8% Beaker_Britain:I6778 + 63.2% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29"
    [25,] "64.7% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 35.3% Kyzlbulak_MLBA1:I4323"
    [26,] "67.5% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 32.5% Sintashta_MLBA:I1064"
    [27,] "16.1% Barcin_ChL:I1584 + 83.9% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
    [28,] "49.5% Beaker_Czech:I4945 + 50.5% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns153"
    [29,] "63.5% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_EuroA29 + 36.5% Krasnoyarsk_MLBA:I3390"
    [30,] "21.8% Germany_Medieval_ACD:AED_1108 + 78.2% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrVlachZyraxes View Post
    ...

    Also Kievan Rus, I'm almost certain that is Sunghir 6, I2 in Phylogeographer.
    Sungir 6 is I2-A16681. I am I2-A815:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmdu0tqyup...ngir6.png?dl=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markos View Post
    @Lemgrant

    Do you mind running my ancient oracle(s) for me?

    Thanks man!
    for example Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ37 sample is Greek as can be seen here-> https://i.imgur.com/YmaC9kW.png
    Code:
     [1,] "Hungary_BA:SZ1"                   "0.0204"
     [2,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ37"     "0.0227"
     [3,] "Scythian_Moldova:scy197"          "0.0235"
     [4,] "Scythian_Moldova:scy305"          "0.0236"
     [5,] "Germany_Medieval_ACD:NW_54"       "0.0239"
     [6,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL25"  "0.0245"
     [7,] "Balkans_BA:I3313"                 "0.0246"
     [8,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL121"    "0.0247"
     [9,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL36"     "0.0252"
    [10,] "Scythian_Moldova:scy300"          "0.0257"
    [11,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL30"  "0.0259"
    [12,] "Beaker_Bavaria:I5524"             "0.0262"
    [13,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ32"     "0.0265"
    [14,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad_o1:SZ19"  "0.027" 
    [15,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ36"     "0.0273"
    [16,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ43"     "0.0275"
    [17,] "Scythian_Hungary:DA198"           "0.0277"
    [18,] "Maros:RISE374"                    "0.0277"
    [19,] "Armenia_ChL:I1632"                "0.0281"
    [20,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL23"     "0.0281"
    [21,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ28"     "0.0283"
    [22,] "Anatolia_MLBA_low_res:MA2208"     "0.0283"
    [23,] "Balkans_BA:I2165"                 "0.0283"
    [24,] "Scythian_Moldova:scy192"          "0.0286"
    [25,] "Armenia_ChL:I1634"                "0.0291"
    [26,] "Germany_Medieval_ACD:STR_310"     "0.0292"
    [27,] "Hungary_BA:I7043"                 "0.0297"
    [28,] "Mycenaean:I9033"                  "0.0298"
    [29,] "Hungary_BA:I7041"                 "0.0301"
    [30,] "Germany_Medieval_o:STR_300"       "0.0307"
    [31,] "Anatolia_MLBA:MA2200"             "0.031" 
    [32,] "Balkans_BA:I4331"                 "0.0312"
    [33,] "Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208" "0.0313"
    [34,] "Vucedol:I3499"                    "0.0315"
    [35,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL38"  "0.0316"
    [36,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL94"     "0.0325"
    [37,] "Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3980"   "0.0327"
    [38,] "Balkans_IA:I5769"                 "0.0327"
    [39,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o2:CL31"  "0.0328"
    [40,] "Anatolia_IA:MA2198"               "0.0328"
    [41,] "Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7424" "0.0334"
    [42,] "Armenia_ChL:I1631"                "0.0336"
    [43,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL53"     "0.0338"
    [44,] "Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7498" "0.0338"
    [45,] "Anatolia_EBA_Ovaoren:MA2213"      "0.0339"
    [46,] "Ostrogothic_Crimea_ACD:KER_1"     "0.0341"
    [47,] "Anatolia_EBA_Isparta:I2683"       "0.0343"
    [48,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ18"     "0.0343"
    [49,] "Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892" "0.0343"
    [50,] "Italy_Medieval_Collegno:CL57"     "0.0343"
    [51,] "Barcin_ChL:I1584"                 "0.0344"
    [52,] "Scythian_Hungary:DA195"           "0.0344"
    [53,] "Maros:RISE373"                    "0.0345"
    [54,] "Beaker_Czech:I4885"               "0.0352"
    [55,] "Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10853" "0.0354"
    [56,] "Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ45"     "0.0355"
    [57,] "Gepid_Serbia_ACD:VIM_2"           "0.0355"
    [58,] "Germany_Medieval:AED_1135"        "0.0356"
    [59,] "Balkans_BA:I2176"                 "0.0357"
    [60,] "Anatolia_MLBA:MA2203"             "0.0358"
    Code:
     [1,] "58.1% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 41.9% Beaker_Hungary:I7044"                               
     [2,] "59.7% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 40.3% Balkans_ChL:I4089"                                  
     [3,] "51.8% Armenia_MLBA:RISE423 + 48.2% Balkans_ChL:I4089"                               
     [4,] "73.4% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 26.6% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns194"             
     [5,] "63.3% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 36.7% Protoboleraz_LCA:I2791"                             
     [6,] "60.3% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 39.7% Balkans_ChL:I2425"                                  
     [7,] "68% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 32% Kazakhstan_Golden_Horde_Euro:DA29"       
     [8,] "67.2% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 32.8% Baden_LCA:I2785"                                    
     [9,] "70.9% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 29.1% Lithuania_BA:Turlojiske1"            
    [10,] "69.4% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 30.6% Lithuania_BA:Turlojiske3"            
    [11,] "40.7% Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av1 + 59.3% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208"             
    [12,] "56.2% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 43.8% Balkans_BA:I2176"                                   
    [13,] "38.4% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 61.6% Scythian_Moldova:scy197"                            
    [14,] "63.7% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 36.3% Baden_LCA:I2370"                                    
    [15,] "35.5% ALPc_MN:I4188 + 64.5% Armenia_ChL:I1631"                                      
    [16,] "68.2% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 31.8% Baden_LCA:I5119"                                    
    [17,] "66% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 34% LBK_N:I0025"                                            
    [18,] "66.4% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 33.6% Poland_BKG:N27"                                     
    [19,] "36.5% Avar_Hungary_Szolad:Av2 + 63.5% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208"             
    [20,] "49.2% Anatolia_MLBA_low_res:MA2208 + 50.8% Maros:RISE374"                           
    [21,] "70.3% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 29.7% Poland_BKG:N31"                                     
    [22,] "74.4% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 25.6% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns19"              
    [23,] "66% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 34% Czech_MN:I4894"                                         
    [24,] "67.7% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 32.3% Protoboleraz_LCA:I2791"                             
    [25,] "43.3% ALPc_MN:I4188 + 56.7% Armenia_MLBA:RISE423"                                   
    [26,] "31.9% Anatolia_EBA_Isparta:I2683 + 68.1% Hungary_BA:SZ1"                            
    [27,] "65.1% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 34.9% Baden_LCA:I2752"                                    
    [28,] "62.4% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 37.6% Poland_BKG:N27"                                     
    [29,] "64.2% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 35.8% Tiszapolgar_ECA:I2354"                              
    [30,] "73.8% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 26.2% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns215"             
    [31,] "29% Anatolia_EBA_Isparta:I2495 + 71% Hungary_BA:SZ1"                                
    [32,] "61.1% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 38.9% Protoboleraz_LCA:I2788"                             
    [33,] "50.9% Armenia_MLBA:RISE423 + 49.1% Balkans_ChL:I2431"                               
    [34,] "64% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 36% Poland_BKG:N28"                                         
    [35,] "63.7% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 36.3% TDLN:I1891"                                         
    [36,] "63% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 37% Balkans_N:I4918"                                        
    [37,] "64.4% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 35.6% Balkans_ChL:I4089"                                  
    [38,] "34.3% Anatolia_MLBA:MA2200 + 65.7% Hungary_BA:SZ1"                                  
    [39,] "66.3% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 33.7% Protoboleraz_LCA:I2789"                             
    [40,] "31.2% ALPc_MN:I2744 + 68.8% Armenia_ChL:I1634"                                      
    [41,] "42.8% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 57.2% Hungary_Medieval_Szolad_o1:SZ19"                    
    [42,] "63.6% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 36.4% Scythian_Ukraine:scy009"             
    [43,] "75.5% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 24.5% Latvia_BA:Kivutkalns209"             
    [44,] "35.3% ALPc_MN:I2744 + 64.7% Armenia_ChL:I1631"                                      
    [45,] "69.5% Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208 + 30.5% Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006"
    [46,] "66.5% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 33.5% Poland_BKG:N31"                                     
    [47,] "40.8% Anatolia_MLBA:MA2200 + 59.2% Germany_Medieval_ACD:NW_54"                      
    [48,] "65.8% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 34.2% Barcin_N:I1101"                                     
    [49,] "66.1% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 33.9% LBK_N_Austria:I5205"                                
    [50,] "28.1% Anatolia_MLBA:MA2205 + 71.9% Hungary_BA:SZ1"                                  
    [51,] "57.6% Armenia_ChL:I1632 + 42.4% Balkans_BA:I2176"                                   
    [52,] "58.1% Hungary_BA:SZ1 + 41.9% Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1:CL25"                       
    [53,] "60% Armenia_ChL:I1632 + 40% Beaker_Hungary:I7044"                                   
    [54,] "66.3% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 33.7% Czech_EBA_o:I7197"                                  
    [55,] "31.9% ALPc_MN:I1498 + 68.1% Armenia_ChL:I1634"                                      
    [56,] "68.7% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 31.3% Baden_LCA:I2369"                                    
    [57,] "64% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 36% Barcin_N:I0745"                                         
    [58,] "68% Armenia_ChL:I1631 + 32% Baden_LCA:I2366"                                        
    [59,] "35.8% ALPc_MN:I2355 + 64.2% Armenia_ChL:I1631"                                      
    [60,] "42.6% Armenia_ChL:I1634 + 57.4% Germany_Medieval_ACD:NW_54"                         
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    This place Stari Vlah has 62% Paleo European Y-DNA! With I2 and I1 variety..

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