New improved World Medieval G25 unscaled calculator

[J. Ketch]

I'm of the opinion that Germanic ethnogenesis was in the Nordic Bronze Age culture, so for me Nordic and Germanic is the same.

Wasn’t that only in Scandinavia though? So why would Bronze Age Netherlands be included. Friesland/North NL is the ultimate R-U106 country, as opposed to typically Scandinavian I1.

[Peterski]

Wasn’t that only in Scandinavia though? So why would Bronze Age Netherlands be included. Friesland/North NL is the ultimate R-U106 country, as opposed to typically Scandinavian I1.

Elp Culture in the Netherlands and North Germany also had links to Nordic Bronze Age, so it could be part of the Proto-Germanic world too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elp_culture

^^^ It had cultural links to both Nordic and Atlantic cultures:

"a culture complex at the boundary between the Atlantic and the Nordic horizons."



^^^ People of this culture were already building typical Germanic longhouses:

"The culture is known for featuring the longhouse, housing people and animals in one and the same building. This construction shows an exceptional local continuity until the twentieth century, still being the normal type of farm in the lowlands of NW Europe and the Netherlands."

[Grace O'Malley]

Southern English are actually closer to Northern French than Irish and of course populations like Belgians. I can't wait for that study Genetic History of France. I'm excited. Any news when it is coming out?

[Peterski]

Southern English are actually closer to Northern French than Irish and of course populations like Belgians. I can't wait for that study Genetic History of France. I'm excited. Any news when it is coming out?

Probbably not in this decade, lol. I don't know if such study is underway, but eventually something like this will probably be published, right?

I know that the study about genetic history of Poland will be published, but it was "coming soon" already in 2016, so... There is some delay.

e.g., most of my Ancestors 2000 years ago were Celtic, but a minority of my ancestors were Celts, and I’m not Celtic at all (well very little).

Didn't you just score the highest Celtic in this thread?:

[1] "distance%=1.2616"

JKetch_new

CELTIC,83.6
GERMANIC,9.4
CELTIBERIAN,3.2
AQUITANIAN,2.4
IBERIAN,0.8
VIKING-FINN,0.6


[1] "distance%=0.931"

JKetch_old

CELTIC,84.8
GERMANIC,9.8
VIKING-BRIT,2.4
IBERIAN,1.2
CELTIBERIAN,0.8
AQUITANIAN,0.6
LUSITANIAN,0.2
VIKING-FINN,0.2

[Grace O'Malley]

Probbably not in this decade, lol. I don't know if such study is underway, but eventually something like this will probably be published, right?

I know that the study about genetic history of Poland will be published, but it was "coming soon" already in 2016, so... There is some delay.



Didn't you just score the highest Celtic in this thread?:

And why are Brits scoring more Celtic than me?

[Peterski]

And why are Brits scoring more Celtic than me?

Two main reasons. Because:

1) the "CELTIC" group does not include any samples from Scotland or Ireland
2) the "CELTIC" group includes two gladiators who were partially Germanic

CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ14
CELTIC:England_IA:HI1-I0156
CELTIC:England_Roman:3DT16 - this gladiator was partially Germanic, should be removed from "CELTIC"
CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT22
CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ8
CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT3 - this gladiator was partially Germanic, should be removed from "CELTIC"
CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT23
CELTIC:England_Roman:6DT21
CELTIC:Germany_Medieval:STR_316
CELTIC:England_IA:I0160
CELTIC:England_IA:M1489
CELTIC:England_IA:L-I0789
CELTIC:Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ24

^^^ And one sample is missing (this one can improve the calculator for Irish people, just like adding LBA Scotland):

6DT18 should be added to "CELTIC" (one of York gladiators, he could be of Gaelic or Hibernian origin).

England_Roman:6DT18

[J. Ketch]

Probbably not in this decade, lol. I don't know if such study is underway, but eventually something like this will probably be published, right?

I know that the study about genetic history of Poland will be published, but it was "coming soon" already in 2016, so... There is some delay.



Didn't you just score the highest Celtic in this thread?:

I scored the highest on a component called Celtic, and as I said most of my ancestors were Celtic (of culture), while being majority non-Celt of blood. I can’t even form a sentence in a Celtic language.

[Peterski]

I scored the highest on a component called Celtic

The component has a flaw, because it includes two samples who were not pure Celts:

England_Roman:3DT16
England_Roman:6DT3

^^^ Those two were mercenaries/gladiators of at least partially immigrant ancestry.

If ph2ter removes these two samples, your Germanic will probably increase and Celtic will be a bit lower.

I can’t even form a sentence in a Celtic language.

And African-Americans can't form a sentence in an African language. Unless you count Ebonics as African.

[J. Ketch]

And African-Americans can't form a sentence in an African language. Unless you count Ebonics as African.

Aframs are circa 80% African by blood, I am 20-30% Celt by blood I guess? East Germans and Austrians have similar amounts of ancient Slav ancestry and they are equally not at all Slavic and nobody would consider them such.

[J. Ketch]

The component has a flaw, because it includes two samples who were not pure Celts:

England_Roman:3DT16
England_Roman:6DT3

^^^ Those two were mercenaries/gladiators of at least partially immigrant ancestry.

If ph2ter removes these two samples, your Germanic will probably increase and Celtic will be a bit lower.

Yes, both the England Roman and England Anglo Saxon samples are flawed in this way.