23andme results of North-West African Jews (Haplogroups+Autosomal)

[Sp_loa]

The question wasn't for me but why do alot score so little Ashkenazi Jewish between 2.3%-7% etc?

These Mexicans score between 1.5%-3% Ashkenazi Jewish .I don't think any of them have recent Jewish ancestors.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ixes-Fotos-DNA




https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...otos-DNA/page2


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...otos-DNA/page2



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These other Mexicans on other dna companies score more.This guy is descendant of sefardic Jews who founded Saltillo ,Mexico.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...otos-DNA/page4

His cousin

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...otos-DNA/page4

Many new worlder have Sephardic Jewish roots (especially Puerto ricans and Mexicans, I match many of them as 4th-6th cousins). Sephardi Jews are shown as mix of Italian-Western Asian- Iberian- Ashkenazi (because many Ashkenazim, probably from the reference group as well, have some Sephardi admix and in general both groups are quite similar) and North African so Mexicans with Sephardi ancestry will score some Ashkenazi.

[Longbowman]

^proof that European Sephardim score Ashkenazi on some tests. I score Sephardi on FTDNA but my great aunt, who is 3/32 Sephardi, 29/32 Silesian Ashkenazi gets none at all, when she should get 9-10%. The Sephardi reference is almost certainly Moroccan or maybe part Balkan.

[RMuller]

Many new worlder have Sephardic Jewish roots (especially Puerto ricans and Mexicans, I match many of them as 4th-6th cousins). Sephardi Jews are shown as mix of Italian-Western Asian- Iberian- Ashkenazi (because many Ashkenazim, probably from the reference group as well, have some Sephardi admix and in general both groups are quite similar) and North African so Mexicans with Sephardi ancestry will score some Ashkenazi.

How much Jewish ancestry do you think the Mexicans that i posted have when you include sefardic ancestry? 4-5% ? Their Jewish ancestors must have been mixed with European,so they get like 6-8% of their DNA from past Jewish ancestors?

[talombo]

I know this thread is about north-african jews results from 23andme but I thought it might be interesting to compare it with what they get on AncestryDNA
so here are some of my matches from Ancestry (I assume they are north african jews just by the surnames but I can't be sure)

[Pine]

Here is another one for you (family tree all north african jewish):

[Sp_loa]

In general I think 23andme is more accurate than ancestryDNA. I don’t claim 23andme is perfect as they still have hard time differentiating southern levant and North Africa they should fix it in their next beta.

Even in AncestryDNA you can see that the European-MENA ratio varies but I do know AncestryDNA assigns high Italian for MENA-European mixed people. I only have problem with the European being almost solely Italian (which seems to be more true for East Sephardim), and with a very low North African (1%? For real?).

I’m not sure what to say? Thanks for sharing I guess. It will be interesting to see how it changes in both 23andme and AncestryDNA.
I’m going to stick with 23andme for now.

[Sp_loa]

AncestryDNA results of Ethnic Algerian (muslim).

Again, I don’t find these very accurate. Very high italian (why so high? And why Italian? Should be Spanish regarding history) and very high Middle East (why? Algerians are typicaly arabized berbers not Arabs). Only 30% Berber for ethnic Algerian?
I always browse in 23andme and AncestryDNA subreddit and people tested with 23andme say it’s more inline with what they know.

Again i don’t have any agenda. I just think AncestryDNA has some serious problems with Italian-Iberian and Middle East-North Africa.
23andme also has some problems assigning Southern levant in the North African-Arabian category and that why I don’t take their NA/Arabian percentage in moroccan jews as solely Berber (it’s obviously part levantine).

Moroccan Jews are more mixed and complicated than the companies can handle for now. Again I’m going to stick with 23andme but it would be interesting to see how it changes in the future for both companies.

[Leto]

The question wasn't for me but why do alot score so little Ashkenazi Jewish between 2.3%-7% etc?

These Mexicans score between 1.5%-3% Ashkenazi Jewish .I don't think any of them have recent Jewish ancestors.

This guy is Mexican and Salvadoran


44.9% European
- 41.5% Southern European
- 1.1% Ashkenazi Jewish
- 0.2% Northwestern European
- 2.0% Broadly European

41.3% East Asian & Native American

4.9% Western Asian & North African
- 2.9% North African & Arabian
- 0.8% Western Asian
- 1.1% Broadly Western Asian & North African

3.8% Sub-Saharan African

5.2% unassigned

[Longbowman]

In general I think 23andme is more accurate than ancestryDNA. I don’t claim 23andme is perfect as they still have hard time differentiating southern levant and North Africa they should fix it in their next beta.

Even in AncestryDNA you can see that the European-MENA ratio varies but I do know AncestryDNA assigns high Italian for MENA-European mixed people. I only have problem with the European being almost solely Italian (which seems to be more true for East Sephardim), and with a very low North African (1%? For real?).

I’m not sure what to say? Thanks for sharing I guess. It will be interesting to see how it changes in both 23andme and AncestryDNA.
I’m going to stick with 23andme for now.

My cousin (around 5/8 Spanish & Portuguese, 1/4 Ashkenazi, 1/8 Baghdadi) said the same.

[Sp_loa]

My cousin (around 5/8 Spanish & Portuguese, 1/4 Ashkenazi, 1/8 Baghdadi) said the same.

Can you share his results?