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    Additionaly better when adding Roman, now it works for me. I guess I have something extra northeastern.

    fit": 2.4673,

    "HRV_MBA": 33.33,
    "Baltic_EST_IA": 32.5,
    "HUN_Avar_Szolad": 21.67,
    "ITA_Collegno_MA_o1": 12.5,

    Even slightly better when adding Mycenean instead of Roman! now this is really good fit...

    "fit": 2.3808,

    "Baltic_EST_IA": 36.67,
    "HRV_MBA": 23.33,
    "HUN_Avar_Szolad": 22.5,
    "GRC_Mycenaean": 17.5,

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    Another model for you and me (unscaled):

    [1] "distance%=0.8333"

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    HUN_Avar_Szolad,33.4
    DEU_MA,22.6
    RUS_Sunghir_MA,22.2
    Scythian_MDA,8.2
    Baltic_EST_IA,5
    CZE_Early_Slav,3.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,2.6
    HRV_Early_IA,1.2
    BGR_IA,0.8
    HRV_MBA,0.2

    The same but grouped:

    BALTO-SLAVIC: 64.4%
    BALKAN: 10.4%
    SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 22.6%
    ROMAN: 2.6%


    [1] "distance%=1.7215"

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    Baltic_EST_IA,28
    CZE_Early_Slav,18.2
    Scythian_MDA,13.8
    HRV_MBA,12
    HUN_Avar_Szolad,10.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,7
    DEU_Roman,6.4
    BGR_IA,3.6
    RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.2

    BALTO-SLAVIC: 57.2%
    BALKAN: 29.4%
    SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 0%
    ROMAN: 13.4%

    You don't have Germanic, but composition of your Balto-Slavic is more northern and western than mine.

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    Amazing work, thank you so much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    Another model for you and me (unscaled):

    [1] "distance%=0.8333"

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    HUN_Avar_Szolad,33.4
    DEU_MA,22.6
    RUS_Sunghir_MA,22.2
    Scythian_MDA,8.2
    Baltic_EST_IA,5
    CZE_Early_Slav,3.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,2.6
    HRV_Early_IA,1.2
    BGR_IA,0.8
    HRV_MBA,0.2

    The same but grouped:

    BALTO-SLAVIC: 64.4%
    BALKAN: 10.4%
    SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 22.6%
    ROMAN: 2.6%


    [1] "distance%=1.7215"

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    Baltic_EST_IA,28
    CZE_Early_Slav,18.2
    Scythian_MDA,13.8
    HRV_MBA,12
    HUN_Avar_Szolad,10.8
    ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,7
    DEU_Roman,6.4
    BGR_IA,3.6
    RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.2

    BALTO-SLAVIC: 57.2%
    BALKAN: 29.4%
    SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 0%
    ROMAN: 13.4%

    You don't have Germanic, but composition of your Balto-Slavic is more northern and western than mine.
    I think you have my coordinates, can you run me too with that model if you don't mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ford View Post
    I think you have my coordinates, can you run me too with that model if you don't mind?
    [1] "distance%=1.2042"

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    HUN_Avar_Szolad,28.2
    Scythian_MDA,20.6
    Baltic_EST_IA,18.6
    ITA_Collegno_MA_o1,9.6
    RUS_Sunghir_MA,9.2
    HRV_MBA,5.6
    CZE_Early_Slav,4.2
    BGR_IA,2.8
    DEU_Roman,1.2

    BALTO-SLAVIC: 60.2%
    BALKAN: 29.0%
    SOUTHEAST-GERMANIC: 0%
    ROMAN: 10.8%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    They cluster east compared to SW Euros, additional Slavic + Greek or Thracian admixture. Iron Age Bulgaria (Thracian) was genetically SE European.
    So I would say Albanians are Illyrians altered by Greco-Thracian and Slavic blood.
    I should probably stop reading your posts but you keep talking about Albanians. Why altered? Why should we be exactly like SW Euros when we are neighboring greeks and slavs. Do you think think there's a vacuum between them and us? This is a continuum of geographic location.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulu View Post
    I should probably stop reading your posts but you keep talking about Albanians. Why altered? Why should we be exactly like SW Euros when we are neighboring greeks and slavs. Do you think think there's a vacuum between them and us? This is a continuum of geographic location.
    You should stop pestering me because it's getting boring and I am tired of genetic nationalists and ''muh purity''.
    Albanians have Slavic admixture like all other Balkanites. Enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    You should stop pestering me because it's getting boring and I am tired of genetic nationalists and ''muh purity''.
    Albanians have Slavic admixture like all other Balkanites. Enjoy it.
    But you make no sense, the logic you're using it's very illogical. You expect us like Spanish while we are in the Balkans. Stop talking about Albanians already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulu View Post
    But you make no sense, the logic you're using it's very illogical. You expect us like Spanish while we are in the Balkans. Stop talking about Albanians already.
    Stop harassing me and telling me what to do. We are just discussing possibilites and expressing our opinions.
    If you don't like my posts, ignore them and leave me alone. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Stop harassing me and telling me what to do. We are just discussing possibilites and expressing our opinions.
    If you don't like my posts, ignore them and leave me alone. Thanks.
    I'm trying to illuminate you

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