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    Default Afrikaners welcome Dutch help against race crimes

    Boers, take heart: your cousins are coming to the rescue. Dutch politicians want to help fight discrimination and racially-motivated crimes against South Africa's Afrikaners, the descendents of Dutch and other European settlers. It's an about-face for a country that once championed the struggle against apartheid.

    "We are very grateful. This is good news. We know that for a long time the African National Congress had the sympathy of the Dutch government." says farmer Chris van Zyl, speaking from his home near Pretoria. "But what we are experiencing here is racial discrimination in reverse."

    Racism

    The issue of racism is back in the spotlight thanks to Julius Malema, a prominent young ANC politician who was convicted of hate speech last year for singing Kill the Boer, a protest song that became popular during the anti-Apartheid struggle.
    Earlier this month, the ANC disciplinary committee suspended Malema from party activity for five years.

    The conservative Christian SGP party has put forward a motion asking Foreign Minister Uri Rosenthal to help stop discrimination and racially-motivated crimes against the Afrikaners. According to the SGP, Rosenthal has "embraced" the idea, which is also backed by Geert Wilders’ Freedom Party. The Freedom Party has been rallying support for the Boers amid what they call "a genocide" and a mass exodus of Afrikaners from South Africa.

    Racial motives

    "By our conservative estimate there have been 2,700 attacks on white farmers since 1990," says Van Zyl, assistant general manager of the Pretoria-based Transvaal Agricultural Union. The farmers' group has been keeping statistics on attacks against the Afrikaners for decades. But are these necessarily racially-motivated crimes? "None of the perpetrators are white Europeans," he says.

    The move in parliament is a turning point for the Netherlands, which began supporting the anti-apartheid struggle in the 1960s. Bloody repression by the white colonial regime had turned Dutch public opinion against the Afrikaners. The Hague developed ties with the African National Congress (ANC) and relations remained warm after the fall of apartheid in 1994.

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    Bart Luirink, editor-in-chief of ZAM Magazine, believes the SGP move is based on a growing sense of nationalism. Conservative Dutch Christians have always felt a close affinity with the Afrikaners, he says. "The horrors of apartheid meant few people dared to express this." But this has changed, with the influential Freedom Party waving the nationalist banner.

    Luirink sees in this shift "a longing for the return of apartheid." He claims the Freedom Party and SGP both back a "Greater Netherlands" ideal, based on blood ties and shared linguistic roots. According to this view, Flemish-speaking Belgians and Afrikaans-speaking South Africans are part of a wider Dutch nation. The international white extremist group Stormfront "has already reacted with enthusiasm," Luirink writes in his blog.

    No problem

    "The Dutch measure will be hard to explain to the South African government," says Ineke van Kessel, Leiden-based historian and former journalist who covered the anti-apartheid struggle. "Why so much attention for discrimination and violence against Afrikaners when this is not even a major problem?" she asks. Luirink agrees, calling reports of a massive exodus of Boers from South Africa a myth. He expects the move in Dutch parliament to harm ties with the government in Pretoria.

    A look at the statistics gathered by the Transvaal Agricultural Union bears them out, at least in terms of violent crime. Violence against white farmers tailed off in recent years and has dropped sharply so far this year, although a number of attacks in recent weeks have grabbed headlines.

    ANC excesses

    But some white South Africans welcome the sudden attention from their distant "relatives." Author and academic Hermann Giliomee, a sharp critic of the current ANC government, says it is about time European countries put pressure on Pretoria. "Helping to stop discrimination and crime can't be wrong," he says, speaking by telephone from Stellenbosch.

    He says help from outside is needed to challenge the overwhelming political dominance of the ANC. And he mentions the draconian "secrecy act" just passed by the South African parliament as an example of the party's excessive power. But even Giliomee doesn't see why discrimination and crimes against Afrikaners are suddenly on the agenda. "There have been some farm attacks in the Western Cape which is a new phenomenon in this area. But overall, I am not aware of a spike in such crimes."


    UPDATE - Tuesday, 10:45 p.m. - The Second Chamber of Parliament has rejected the SGP motion which asked the Dutch government to help stop racial discrimination against the Afrikaners in South Africa. Foreign Minister Rosenthal's VVD, the largest party in the ruling coalition, voted against the measure. (R.Chesal)

    http://www.rnw.nl/english/article/af...st-race-crimes

    More: World leader in violent crime.


    One widely publicised type of violence is attacks against farmers, a large number of whom are of Afrikaner descent.

    Statistics from the South African police show that the national murder rate is falling. The Transvaal Agricultural Union figures indicate a drop in farm murders as well.

    Overall murders nationwide 2008-09: 18,148
    2009-10: 16,834
    2010-11: 15,940
    (totals have declined since 2006)
    Source: South African Police

    Murders on farms
    2009: 71
    2010: 67
    2011: 49 so far
    Source: Transvaal Agricultural Union
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    Can't believe nobody is interested in this topic

    SA is like a paradise on earth and Boers are a wonderful and small nation, they are only 4 mln and the world is silently watching how these beautiful and hardworking people are getting killed on daily bases. Look what they turned Zimbabwe in, now they are doing the same to SA...

    While many Afrikaners leave the country most Boers will never leave their farms, I wish they did though, moved to some safe country where their brains and hands are needed and appreciated.
    Don't forget we owe Afrikaners first ever surgery on the heart...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairi View Post
    Can't believe nobody is interested in this topic

    SA is like a paradise on earth and Boers are a wonderful and small nation, they are only 4 mln and the world is silently watching how these beautiful and hardworking people are getting killed on daily bases. Look what they turned Zimbabwe in, now they are doing the same to SA...

    While many Afrikaners leave the country most Boers will never leave their farms, I wish they did though, moved to some safe country where their brains and hands are needed and appreciated.
    Don't forget we owe Affrikaners first ever surgery on the heart...
    I don't know that no one is interested, they are just quiet about it. Canada has been the only nation to take white south africans on refugee status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerBaron View Post
    I don't know that no one is interested, they are just quiet about it. Canada has been the only nation to take white south africans on refugee status.
    I actually meant TA users. I would think with Boers being brutally murdered every day this topic would have been discussed non stop.
    That's great if Canada helps Afrikaners out. It will not take long to see Boers will make gret contribution to the country.

    But Georgia (republic of Georgia) also takes them in now although on different status. Georgia needs good farmers to develop their agriculture and gives Boers land for free to live and work on. Some have already moved there. It is mutually beneficial to them.

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    The Neocons here are more concerned about Israel than protecting the white minority in South Africa.

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    It's a fucking shame how the whole world has neglected the Boers. They built up the country of South Africa to what it is, and now it's turning into Third World chaos. I think it's gonna get even worse for the white minority after Mandela's influence is gone, and the younger generations of blacks who didn't live through apartheid are taking over.

    Personally, I think the best solution would be the splitting of South Africa into one white nation and one black nation. This time, the division would be done properly, not putting all the nogs into semi-official "Bantustans" and then having them as cheap labour anyway. These two countries would have to be real monoracial nation-states. The hypothetical Boer Republic could be located below the Orange River, encompassing the Cape.

    (Of course, there's lots of Indians and "Coloureds" in that country as well - I'm not quite sure what to do with them in my hypothetical plan for SA.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nairi View Post
    I actually meant TA users. I would think with Boers being brutally murdered every day this topic would have been discussed non stop.
    As leibowitz said, the neo-cons on here don't give a fuck about the Boers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nairi View Post
    I actually meant TA users. I would think with Boers being brutally murdered every day this topic would have been discussed non stop.
    For now the best that the Boers can do is get out of that place and go to a safe country, and let the blacks destroy themselves.
    If anyone tirelessly expose what is happening with the Boers, few people will care, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elbegast View Post
    For now the best that the Boers can do is get out of that place and go to a safe country, and let the blacks destroy themselves.
    If anyone tirelessly expose what is happening with the Boers, few people will care, unfortunately.
    I agree but I am surrounded by Boers and know that many of them prefer to be massacred on their farms but not leave them. Boers have incredible spirit.
    The world has a choice: to fence sit and clamly watch how beautiful, brave, hardworking nation is brutally murdered(!) every single day or to intervene and do something about it...
    I don't know what precisely should be done but what I know for a fact it is us, ordinary people, should start doing something so Govts act under our pressure.

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