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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    No dude I’m right. You have no idea what I’m talking about. I’m not talking about the recent E. Asian within the last300 years like 23andme. I’m talking about the older E Asian in the Iron Age and the recent.

    Where do you think the mongoloid looking Kurds Iranians or other W Asians get their looks from. If you think they get it from the 5 % more recent E Asian that will be hilarious . They get it from the 15 or 20% old E. Asian. All someone has to do is make a k3 calculator with SSA, ENF, and E. Asian components and all that hidden E Asian will come pouring out trust me
    E eurasian could just be ASI lol on K3. doesnt have to be mongoloid. I get 41% E eurasian, doesnt mean im 41% mongoloid/E asian. For toorks, kurds, maybe its all E asian, but for iranians its definitely ASI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    E eurasian could just be ASI lol on K3. doesnt have to be mongoloid. I get 41% E eurasian, doesnt mean im 41% mongoloid/E asian. For toorks, kurds, maybe its all E asian, but for iranians its definitely ASI
    Iran, Iranians or Persians have much more 'Mongoloid' DNA than Kurds/Kurdistan. Turco-Persian history has been recorded.

    But I do agree with the rest that Kurds don't have much of E.Eurasian auDNA. Most in Kurds is from the Scythians..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    E eurasian could just be ASI lol on K3. doesnt have to be mongoloid. I get 41% E eurasian, doesnt mean im 41% mongoloid/E asian. For toorks, kurds, maybe its all E asian, but for iranians its definitely ASI
    Well Kurds and W and some NE Iranians have similar ASI, and I agree that your E Eurasian is ASI but if you think about it ASI is mostly E Eurasian of the SE Asian type anyways. To me SE Asian old or new is not much different from good old E Asian

    No doubt Indians are heavily E Eurasian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    I get 41% E eurasian, doesnt mean im 41% mongoloid/E asian.
    I'm sure a lot of your E. Eurasian component is actually from the Scythians who also brought R1a to the Indian Peninsula around 1500 BC.

    Indians are actually full of the so called 'Mongoloid' DNA from Central Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    Iran, Iranians or Persians have much more 'Mongoloid' DNA than Kurds/Kurdistan. Turco-Persian history has been recorded.

    But I do agree with the rest that Kurds don't have much of E.Eurasian auDNA. Most in Kurds is from the Scythians..
    How Do Persians and Iranians have much more mongoloid than Kurds when I, some of my 100% kurdish relatves and kurdish Gedmatch kits have more E Eurasian than many Iranians. I can post some calculator results later if you like

    Actually I have seen some Iranians score the same or even less east Asian than you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    How Do Persians and Iranians have much more mongoloid than Kurds when I, some of my 100% kurdish relatves and kurdish Gedmatch kits have more E Eurasian than many Iranians. I can post some calculator results later if you like

    Actually I have seen some Iranians score the same or even less east Asian than you
    Just ask the Azerbaijani folks, they know everything about it. In Iran live also much, much more Turkmen and other Turkic speaking people than in Kurdistan.

    And with all due respect, you do also have some distant Turkmen ancestry. You don't really represent the 100% pure Kurds.

    And like I said, and I do agree with you, most Central Asian DNA in Kurdistan is from the Scythians

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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    Just ask the Azerbaijani folks, they know everything about it. In Iran live also much, much more Turkmen and other Turkic speaking people than in Kurdistan.

    And with all due respect, you do also have some distant Turkmen ancestry. You don't really represent the 100% pure Kurds.

    And like I said, and I do agree with you, most Central Asian DNA in Kurdistan is from the Scythians
    Btw I agree with you about Saka and north Indians. I thought I saw the Zoroastrians and a couple of other Iranians with less or similar east Asian than you

    I will post some of the 23andme and Gedmatch for some of the 100% Kurdish kits later One of them btw is a V5 kit . On 23andme I have seen many Iranian DNA matches for the Kurdish kits And they show 0% east Asian Where is some shell 1% but I guess that’s pretty high for 23andme
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoro View Post
    Btw I agree with you about Saka and north Indians. I thought I saw the Zoroastrians and a couple of other Iranians with less or similar east Asian than you
    And it might be possible that the ancient Zoroastrians had less East Asian than me. We are both Kurds and like you, I do have also a lot ancient Saka/Scythian ancestry, since some Saka settled in Kurdish mountains. Plus, I think all Kurds have some post-Saka Turkic DNA in them. But not that much. It is also possible that ancient Zoroastrians had much less Saka ancestry.


    On 23andMe I don't have any East Asian either:


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    Quote Originally Posted by MS85 View Post
    And it might be possible that the ancient Zoroastrians had less East Asian than me. We are both Kurds and like you, I do have also a lot ancient Saka/Scythian ancestry, since some Saka settled in Kurdish mountains. Plus, I think all Kurds have some post-Saka Turkic DNA in them. But not that much. It is also possible that ancient Zoroastrians had much less Saka ancestry.

    On 23andMe I don't have any East Asian either:

    Yeah so clearly 23andme doesn’t show any E Asian older than 300 years that’s why heavily E Eurasian Indians also show 0 SE oe E Asian on 23andme

    Btw you still have 0.2% E Asian on 23andme. Hey that’s still higher than the 0% Iranian matches I’ve seen there
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Caspian region (mazandarani and gilak) also has more south asian admixture. The south-west has more arabian markers (red-sea, southwestasian, SSA)
    Northwest is around 8% East Eurasian.
    As much South Asian admixture as the East? It seems weird if that's the case.

    What about the Caucasus, non-EE Steppe or Med influence? Some of those might have been obscured by the Turkic migration influencing a lot of Iran but I wonder what the pattern were before then, how Caucasian was the pre-Turkic Azeri region etc., or Mediterranean influence in some places.

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