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For those of you who have been tested yourself, or have a male relative who's been tested, what's your y-DNA Haplogroup?
I'm R1a1, but it's a very rare type. The only 12-marker matches with zero steps are a handful of Louisianians who share my surname. At one step there are only two people on ysearch who come up as one step matchs, a Polish fellow and a Norwegian.
Here is some general information on y-DNA haplogroups and their frequencies in Europe.
Last edited by Psychonaut; 06-20-2009 at 07:10 PM.
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I'm R1b but of the British Isles variant. My highest frequency results were in Ireland. That makes sense considering my paternal side is Irish.
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Based on results posted at familytreedna, I would appear to be R1b1b2a1a. Most common in the Netherlands at 37%, 21% in England.
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I'd love to get a test done, hopefully soon. I've seen a study that showed that R1b and I1 are by far the most common among Afrikaner men.
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I'm still waiting for mine to be processed, but if my cousin Don is right about our suspected relation to the Reeder's/Reader's of Terrington St. Clement in Norfolk, England, my haplogroup may be I2b1, that would mean our family migrated North from Norfolk to Yorkshire, but this is all speculation right now, SMGF is taking their jolly ole time with my results.
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I tested last year,
y-DNA Haplogroup I1-N
mtDNA haplogroup H
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Nice website.
I'll offer these following observations I had of it:
- For those looking for a "Turkey is not European" weapon, their R1b+R1a+I only comes to 28%...
- All other European countries have [R1b+R1a+I] super-majorities (usually approaching 75% - Iceland has 98%!).
- There are three exceptions to the above rule...
- Firstly, Albania. Their R1b+R1a+I is only 48%; most of the rest seems to come from nonEuropean Islamic settlers after the conversion of the Albanians.
- Secondly, Greece. If one wants to know what kind of damage was done to Greece by the centuries of Ottoman rule (and to some extent their imperialism in the disatant past): Their [R1b+R1a+I] is 39.5% (they also have some Hellenic-only markers; but Middle-Eastern Y-lines seem to predominate).
- Finally, Finland. The majority carry the Finnic-N. (It's been well established that 90%+ of Finnic genetics is European and the rest is old-Siberian... hence the slight lappoid tendencies of some Finnish people).
- Back to Turkey-- If one considers Turkey to be European based on this metric, one would have to likewise consider Syria to be European, as their [R1b+R1a+I] is 28.5%. Iraq's is comparable, too, at 22%. Iran's is 26%. (Iran also curiously has 2.5% of the Finnic N...)
- For those looking for a "Southern Italy is not fully European" weapon:
- [R1b+R1a+I] Frequency in Northern Italy - 69.5%
- [R1b+R1a+I] Frequency in Central Italy - 56.5%
- [R1b+R1a+I] Frequency in Southern Italy - 39%
- Although the proto-Germanic/Nordic "I" was always a European grouping going back to the pre-IceAge, it seems they usually tended towards being a ruling caste and not the peasantry, so they usually had fewer children than the surrounding R1'ers, thus their gene frequency is lower overall.
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I got my 67 dys ydna test performed earlier this year. It took over 4 months to get my full results.
The geneticists could not reliably predict my haplotype by comparison with other users dys markers. So my results required a snp assurance test to be performed.
I was confirmed as Haplotype R1a1.
My closest match was from a chap in Maryland who carry's a variant of my surname.
My particular version of R1a1.I wonder if these Hispanic Louisianians in my category might be related to your Louisiana matches, Psychonaut?R1a Haplotype #3
The haplotype below is very common for an R1a. Since its highest levels occur among
Norwegians and Swedes, it's clearly of Viking origin.
19 389i 389ii 390 391 392 393 385a 385b
15 13 30 25 10 11 13 11 14
Geographical Locale
%
Louisiana [Hispanic-American] 3.33
Oslo, Norway 3.03
Baranya, Southern Hungary [Romani] 2.56
Vasterbotten, Sweden 2.44
Bulgaria 1.64
Maryland [European-American] 1.56
Cabinda, Angola 1.33
Dusseldorf, Westphalia 1.33
Kiev, Ukraine 1.22
Moscow, Western Russia 1.18
Gdansk, Northern Poland 1.10
Madgeburg, Saxony-Anhalt 1.06
Budapest, Hungary 1.02
Berlin, Brandenburg .91
Ljubljana, Slovenia .83
London, England [Asian] .75
Lublin, Eastern Poland .74
Zagreb, Croatia .67
Stuttgart, Baden-Wurrtemberg .65
Andulacia, Southern Spain .61
Chemnitz, Saxony .61
Central Portugal .54
Rostock, Mecklenburg .49
Greifswald, Pomerania .48
Freiburg, Baden-Wurttemberg .46
Tyrol, Western Austria .44
Warsaw, Central Poland .42
Munich, Bavaria .40
Leipzig, Saxony .15
Source:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb..../haplo_r1a.htm
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That's a possibility. I've mentioned before that my surname was only recently Gallicized. My paternal line stems from a fellow from the Canary Islands who came to Louisiana in the early 1700s. So, my surname is a Gallicized version of his Spanish surname. However, the plot gets thicker. I hired a professional genealogist who lives on the island my ancestor came from (La Gomera) to do some digging for me. Apparently only adopted that particular surname in the late 1500s. Prior to that my male line stemmed from a fellow with the completely unrelated surname of either Lorenzo/Lawrence/Laurence/etc. It's a bit tricky to tell whether this fellow was Spanish, French or English (all of which are entirely possible for that particular island) because the Spanish of that period had a horrible habit of "translating" foreign names into Spanish. So, although my ancestor's name is listed on his marriage certificate as Francisco Lorenzo, it very well could've been Francis Lawrence, which my genealogist found referenced elsewhere during the same time period. But, my line aside, there were probably several Spanish men bearing the R1a1 haplogroup (which probably stems from the Norman crew of Jean de Bethancourt who settled the island chain) who came on board the same ship as my ancestor.up
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Boy, Spain is as deep R1b1 as it gets. I am sure you have cross checked the Laurence name with your results.
Personally my closest matches are all English and I have no matches to Lawrence or its derivatives.
My distant French matches are: Leblanc, De Hullu, White, Martin, Reel.
My distant Spanish matches are:Jose Luis
Last Name: Gonzalez
Year Born: About 1804
Year Died:
Country of Origin: Canary Island, Spain
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