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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Haryana Jatts and Indian Punjabi Jatts have more Indo-European than most non-European IE speaking groups apart from Tajiks. Interesting.
    That may explain people like this Sikh (Corded-Nordic influence is clear in him):

    For some reason, even though haryana jatts score the most euro with least indian shift, they still phenotypically look very indid. Kashmiris and punjabis both have more western shifted folks in comparison imo. Kashmiris especially. Its definitely some climate adaptation in their case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    It seems there is not much difference among elites of north and south, but poor people have much more variation.
    Upper caste South Indians (Brahmins) are descended from North Indian migrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adamastor View Post
    Haryana Jatts and Indian Punjabi Jatts have more Indo-European than most non-European IE speaking groups apart from Tajiks. Interesting.
    That may explain people like this Sikh (Corded-Nordic influence is clear in him):

    more then 50 results from random people is required to make a assumption. Hryana jaats have only few been tasted and all those are clans connected with punjabi . 60% hryana jats are not real jats but jatavs (jat+yadavs) bet they will never show these results lol
    Sikh jatts results are real jatts becaue they are taken randomly from more than 50 people
    i am collecting dna results randomly from real muslim jatts and more than 70% have more than 20 Ne euro and soon will post more than 50 results.
    here is how old muslim jatts looked
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    Rajputs (si score 45)are not middle caste but upper caste. Rajputs are 7% of rajasthan jaats(si score25) are middle caste(obc) they are 12% of population. Brahmins(si score 34) are 10%. Meghwal 10% (si score 45) meena 6% si score (42%). Gurjar 5% (34%) bhula and other tribals are less than 10% and they have very high si. You have visited rajasthan yourself you know how they look. On average rajastjani haryanvi and west up don't look much different
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    Jaata(40%) ,don't have the highest steepe rors have beaten their score 45% .
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    Kenji is not rajput he is brahman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Purohit ji View Post
    Jaata(40%) ,don't have the highest steepe rors have beaten their score 45% .
    Is 40% the score for Punjabi Sikh Jatts?

    IIRC, Rors have the same amount of Steppe as Jatts from West UP and Haryana whereas Jatts from Punjab have less Steppe than those groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Purohit ji View Post
    Rajputs (si score 45)are not middle caste but upper caste. Rajputs are 7% of rajasthan jaats(si score25) are middle caste(obc) they are 12% of population. Brahmins(si score 34) are 10%. Meghwal 10% (si score 45) meena 6% si score (42%). Gurjar 5% (34%) bhula and other tribals are less than 10% and they have very high si. You have visited rajasthan yourself you know how they look. On average rajastjani haryanvi and west up don't look much different
    how much of the population do baniyas makeup? Yes I did see many northwestern shifted folks in rajasthan but there were many that looked quite southern shifted as well. Phenotype doesnt equal genotype all the time so thats why. The jatts and brahmins makeup 4 samples in total while there are more baniya samples showing they can go into mid 40s to high 40s and even to low 50s. Not sure if baniays in rajasthan came from neighboring gujarat, UP, etc. Also OBCs are middle-lower. I used kshatriyas and vaishyas for most as middle castes. OBC/tribals are not really middle castes. Jatt sikhs are not obcs in punjab and haryana and most of their birdaris that are non jatts score almost no differently to jatts.

    Plus that rajasthani jatts dont all have to score similarly so thats why i didnt use them. 25% S indian cant be the average. Rajasthanis didnt look THAT western shifted. They still looked more southern than punjabis imo. somewhere in the mid 30s makes sense. Also i could be wrong but arent many brahmins and jatts in rajasthan from neighboring punjab/haryana? I know a rajasthani brahmin from Kota and he said many have origin from punjab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    how much of the population do baniyas makeup? Yes I did see many northwestern shifted folks in rajasthan but there were many that looked quite southern shifted as well. Phenotype doesnt equal genotype all the time so thats why. The jatts and brahmins makeup 4 samples in total while there are more baniya samples showing they can go into mid 40s to high 40s and even to low 50s. Not sure if baniays in rajasthan came from neighboring gujarat, UP, etc. Also OBCs are middle-lower. I used kshatriyas and vaishyas for most as middle castes. OBC/tribals are not really middle castes. Jatt sikhs are not obcs in punjab and haryana and most of their birdaris that are non jatts score almost no differently to jatts.

    Plus that rajasthani jatts dont all have to score similarly so thats why i didnt use them. 25% S indian cant be the average. Rajasthanis didnt look THAT western shifted. They still looked more southern than punjabis imo. somewhere in the mid 30s makes sense. Also i could be wrong but arent many brahmins and jatts in rajasthan from neighboring punjab/haryana? I know a rajasthani brahmin from Kota and he said many have origin from punjab.
    Baniya are less than 5%. But since they are highest in numbers who migrated abroad for buisness and education. Same like there are tamil iyer and iyenger.
    Rajasthani jaata do look less si shifted then brahmins of community. Who score 31%. Rajasthan. Has the highest population of jaata in india. South and south east rajsthan don't have many jaata.
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    Many rajasthani jaats look less si than punjabi ones to me. Also punjabi jaats are basically local punjabi+ haryana jaat genetically. Paki juts have even less jaat dna
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