ancient genomes from y-str.org run through tolan k71

[loschbour_man]

BR2_Ludas_Varjú_dűlő_Hungary_F999933_M_J_M67_K1a1a _1110_1270_BC
Component %
5-Belgium 23,61%
3-North_Poland 12,82%
43-Rhone-Alpes 12,21%
13-Sardinia_Italia 9,56%
22-Slovakia 9,3%
46-SW_France 6,11%
37-Croatia 5,04%
30-Germany_East 3,53%
48-Baleares 3,32%
4-Poland_Sudovia 3,2%
44-Armorica 2,53%
47-Basque 1,88%
29-Belarusia_East 1,82%
21-Tyrol_Austria 1,09%
31-Ukraine_West 0,82%
49-Spain 0,53%
6-Piedmont_Italia 0,52%
41-South-Germany 0,49%
38-Serbia 0,4%
7-Venezio_Italia 0,22%
32-Russia_Kursk 0,22%
45-Cotentin 0,21%
2-Denmark 0,12%
36-SW-England 0,11%
52-Netherlands 0,1%
54-Orcadia 0,08%
17-Albania 0,05%
28-Estonian 0,03%
16-Montenegro 0,02%
40-North-Germany 0,02%
42-West-Brittany 0,02%
1-Sweden 0,01%
51-NE-England 0,01%

[loschbour_man]

IR1_Ludas_Varjú_dűlő_Hungary_F999929_M_N_M231_G2a1 _830_980_BC
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 67,19%
32-Russia_Kursk 8,98%
4-Poland_Sudovia 7,78%
58-Caucasus 6,67%
28-Estonian 3,53%
27-Norway_north 2,13%
29-Belarusia_East 1,91%
33-Russia_Rostov 0,39%
22-Slovakia 0,36%
3-North_Poland 0,32%
31-Ukraine_West 0,2%
53-Norway 0,15%
26-Karelia 0,09%
30-Germany_East 0,06%
52-Netherlands 0,06%
54-Orcadia 0,06%
2-Denmark 0,04%
24-Finland_SW 0,04%
1-Sweden 0,03%
35-Ireland 0,01%
55-Amerindian 0,01%

RISE568_Brandysek_Czech_Republic_H_
Component %
4-Poland_Sudovia 67,47%
43-Rhone-Alpes 32,07%
3-North_Poland 0,36%
29-Belarusia_East 0,07%
22-Slovakia 0,01%
30-Germany_East 0,01%

[WeirdLookingFellow]

If BR2 is mostly NW European and J2, how does a Eastern European like me have him as my closest sample in all ancient calculators? Also how does Bavaria STR310 score? She is rather clearly south-eastern European. My gf scored STR310 as her closest with BR2 after, for me it's the other way around and we both score RISE569 3rd.

[loschbour_man]

If BR2 is mostly NW European and J2, how does a Eastern European like me have him as my closest sample in all ancient calculators? Also how does Bavaria STR310 score? She is rather clearly south-eastern European. My gf scored STR310 as her closest with BR2 after, for me it's the other way around and we both score RISE569 3rd.

br1 and br2 act weirdly in calculators. in the original scientific paper it said they were like modern-day French. in eurogenes calcualtors they appear close to modern day Hungarians, in some other calculators they are Germanic.
in tolan k71 it seems he has some early Celtic influence (Belgium...), some pre-Indo-European(Sardinian, Basque) nut he is mostly something pre-Germanic and pre-Slavic central-European? (Poland-north, East Germany, Slovakia, Croatia...). AND he scores almost none Germanic.

what are your tolan k71 results?

I don't have access to bavaria str310 autosomal file but i have his k36 results. he is a Roman+German mix?
Amerindian 0.00
Arabian 0.00
Armenian 3.00
Basque 0.70
Central_African 0.00
Central_Euro 5.07
East_African 0.00
East_Asian 0.00
East_Balkan 5.20
East_Central_Asian 0.65
East_Central_Euro 3.72
East_Med 3.90
Eastern_Euro 2.81
Fennoscandian 7.74
French 0.72
Iberian 11.01
Indo_Chinese 0.00
Italian 12.47
Malayan 0.00
Near_Eastern 6.36
North_African 0.00
North_Atlantic 3.58
North_Caucasian 10.73
North_Sea 10.21
Northeast_African 0.00
Oceanian 0.68
Omotic 0.00
Pygmy 0.00
Siberian 0.00
South_Asian 0.56
South_Central_Asian 0.00
South_Chinese 0.00
Volga_Ural 0.53
West_African 0.14
West_Caucasian 5.04
West_Med 5.17

[loschbour_man]

RISE569_Brandysek_Czech_Republic_F999954_H1af2_200 0
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 67,31%
4-Poland_Sudovia 31,92%
3-North_Poland 0,5%
29-Belarusia_East 0,07%
30-Germany_East 0,06%
52-Netherlands 0,05%
54-Orcadia 0,04%
2-Denmark 0,02%
22-Slovakia 0,02%
32-Russia_Kursk 0,01%

[WeirdLookingFellow]

RISE569_Brandysek_Czech_Republic_F999954_H1af2_200 0
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 67,31%
4-Poland_Sudovia 31,92%
3-North_Poland 0,5%
29-Belarusia_East 0,07%
30-Germany_East 0,06%
52-Netherlands 0,05%
54-Orcadia 0,04%
2-Denmark 0,02%
22-Slovakia 0,02%
32-Russia_Kursk 0,01%

Impressively Central European.

I don't know how to do the Tokan K71, found some stuff but it honestly beats me, if you have the time could you offer a guide via PM or share a post on how to do it?

[loschbour_man]

Impressively Central European.

I don't know how to do the Tokan K71, found some stuff but it honestly beats me, if you have the time could you offer a guide via PM or share a post on how to do it?

i would say Rhone alpes is a Bell beaker component, and Poland_Sudovia is Corded ware(but they remained the purest in modern day Rhone alpes and Baltic people respectively)

tolan k71 is in admixture studio, free app http://dnagenics.com/admixture-studio/

[loschbour_man]

bulgarian samples are all over the place. but they are also low quality

V2_Vratitsa_Bulgaria_M_U2e1_2_3_1500_1100_BC_
Component %
26-Karelia 29,03%
13-Sardinia_Italia 28,53%
58-Caucasus 20,24%
47-Basque 10,65%
68-Pakistan 7,32%
59-China 3,96%
24-Finland_SW 0,25%
33-Russia_Rostov 0,01%
61-Japon 0,01%
this one seems as a combination of neolithic(sardinia, basque) and something from the steppes, but not corded ware or bell beaker like in the rest of europe(karelia(ehg)+caucasus(chg)+asian influence+pakistan, which is connected to r1a-z93 in this calcualtor)

K8_Krushare_Bulgaria_M_R_450_400_BC_
Component %
47-Basque 75,95%
52-Netherlands 9,61%
13-Sardinia_Italia 7,71%
63-Sub-Sahara 6,35%
45-Cotentin 0,2%
51-NE-England 0,06%
36-SW-England 0,05%
43-Rhone-Alpes 0,03%
5-Belgium 0,02%
54-Orcadia 0,02%
this one is completely different, neolithic+ celtic.

P192_1_Svilengrad_Bulgaria_M_U3b_800_500_BC_
Component %
58-Caucasus 45,89%
18-Thrace_Greece 43,44%
47-Basque 4,93%
66-North_Africa 3,21%
63-Sub-Sahara 2,26%
51-NE-England 0,17%
14-Canary 0,05%
54-Orcadia 0,04%
46-SW_France 0,02%
this one is very caucasian and some traces of Celtic. Minoans were also half Caucasian, but this is much later, 800-500bc. and he also seems to be an ancestor of modern day thrace greeks.

[loschbour_man]

Hungarian bronze age, they are all bell beaker(Rhone-Alpes) + neolithic farmers(Sardinia, Basque, Spain...)

RISE247_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_M_I_L1228_H 11_3372_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 68,87%
13-Sardinia_Italia 31,01%
47-Basque 0,06%
49-Spain 0,02%
8-Tuscany_Italia 0,01%
11-Corsica_France 0,01%
46-SW_France 0,01%
48-Baleares 0,01%

RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_GHIJK_Z1220 3_J1c9_3631_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 77,78%
13-Sardinia_Italia 20,53%
47-Basque 1,69%

RISE349_Battonya_Voros_Oktober_Hungary_F_T2b3_3588 _
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 87,2%
13-Sardinia_Italia 10,48%
63-Sub-Sahara 1,39%
60-East_Africa 0,69%
66-North_Africa 0,23%


RISE371_Szoreg_C_(Sziv_Utca)_Hungary_F_U5a2b_3653_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 99,1%
4-Poland_Sudovia 0,58%
3-North_Poland 0,11%
29-Belarusia_East 0,05%
54-Orcadia 0,04%
22-Slovakia 0,03%
30-Germany_East 0,02%
2-Denmark 0,01%
28-Estonian 0,01%
32-Russia_Kursk 0,01%
52-Netherlands 0,01%


RISE373_Szoreg_C_(Sziv_Utca)_Hungary_F_K1a2a_3476_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 97,63%
13-Sardinia_Italia 2,32%
47-Basque 0,05%


RISE374_Szoreg_C_(Sziv_Utca)_Hungary_M_G_F3344_T2b _3402_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 94,7%
13-Sardinia_Italia 4,72%
8-Tuscany_Italia 0,41%
11-Corsica_France 0,08%
9-Lazio_Italia 0,03%
63-Sub-Sahara 0,02%
6-Piedmont_Italia 0,01%
17-Albania 0,01%

[loschbour_man]

Erd Hungary samples. first one is dated to ~0 BC, and he has Poland_Sudovia on top of Rhone-Alpes. that probably came in the iron age, the Montenegrin iron age sample also has it. the others aren't dated but they are obviously bronze age invaders.

RISE479_Erd_4_Hungary_F999944_M_I_L1228_T2b_2000
Component %
4-Poland_Sudovia 51,89%
43-Rhone-Alpes 47,33%
3-North_Poland 0,7%
29-Belarusia_East 0,05%
30-Germany_East 0,02%
22-Slovakia 0,01%
54-Orcadia 0,01%


RISE480_Erd_4_Hungary_U5a2a_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 99,84%
13-Sardinia_Italia 0,1%
47-Basque 0,04%


RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary_CT_M5751_H2a1_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 90,55%
13-Sardinia_Italia 9,37%
47-Basque 0,08%


RISE484_Erd_4_Hungary_T1a1_
Component %
43-Rhone-Alpes 99,69%
47-Basque 0,29%
54-Orcadia 0,01%