Post Eurogenes K13 - Fresh thread -

**Ljubic** · 08-18-2019, 08:36 PM

This window opens after i click in "Go!" but closes shortly after

When I open the output file i cant see anything resembling an oracle

**Lemgrant** · 08-18-2019, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ljubic

This window opens after i click in "Go!" but closes shortly after

When I open the output file i cant see anything resembling an oracle

You need to enter the values by using the dot as decimal symbol: North Atlantic = 23.37 not 23,37

or use this txt file with commas: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1J7...ovJ1GTKuRFRYEg

**Ljubic** · 08-18-2019, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Lemgrant

You need to enter the values by using the dot as decimal symbol: North Atlantic = 23.37 not 23,37

or use this txt file with commas: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1J7...ovJ1GTKuRFRYEg

Thank you, it worked.

**malka** · 08-19-2019, 10:59 PM

Me:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 7.873355
2 Tuscan @ 11.192892
3 Romanian @ 12.606772
4 Portuguese @ 12.903976
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 13.908611
6 Serbian @ 13.981924
7 Bulgarian @ 14.144173
8 Spanish_Cataluna @ 14.181871
9 French @ 14.279465
10 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.344088
11 Spanish_Murcia @ 14.583304
12 Spanish_Valencia @ 15.119726
13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 15.129936
14 Spanish_Andalucia @ 15.378664
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 15.571917
16 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 16.637321
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.683826
18 West_German @ 17.336683
19 West_Sicilian @ 17.929005
20 Spanish_Cantabria @ 18.063725

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_German +50% West_Sicilian @ 3.035788

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.675984

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 2.384351
2 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Murcia + West_German @ 2.466455
3 Bulgarian + Danish + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.472423
4 Bulgarian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.517611
5 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia + West_German @ 2.524233
6 Italian_Abruzzo + Romanian + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 2.527060
7 Bulgarian + Orcadian + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.530637
8 Bulgarian + North_Dutch + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.536341
9 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.539553
10 Bulgarian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.567811
11 Romanian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 2.595921
12 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 2.600824
13 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.630694
14 Bulgarian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.642423
15 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + North_German + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.643884
16 Greek_Thessaly + Norwegian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.647717
17 Danish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.670655
18 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.675984
19 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 2.679787
20 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 2.680844

Dad (Ashkenazi):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.960603
2 Italian_Jewish @ 6.044116
3 South_Italian @ 6.444309
4 Ashkenazi @ 6.482029
5 East_Sicilian @ 7.950457
6 Algerian_Jewish @ 8.303088
7 Central_Greek @ 9.270289
8 West_Sicilian @ 9.950133
9 Tunisian_Jewish @ 10.302912
10 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.747572
11 Libyan_Jewish @ 11.442703
12 Cyprian @ 15.245057
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 15.755469
14 Tuscan @ 17.296381
15 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.813856
16 Syrian @ 20.289333
17 Samaritan @ 21.795654
18 Lebanese_Druze @ 21.930397
19 Palestinian @ 22.019886
20 Jordanian @ 22.092493

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% North_Italian @ 3.455522

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% West_Sicilian @ 2.819887

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 2.664573
2 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + West_Sicilian @ 2.677815
3 Cyprian + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.727306
4 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.754729
5 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_French @ 2.761045
6 Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 2.763680
7 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia + West_Sicilian @ 2.819887
8 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.822206
9 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 2.846075
10 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.874751
11 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.891011
12 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.898613
13 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Sicilian @ 2.904535
14 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.904998
15 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.933523
16 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 2.946065
17 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.950942
18 Cyprian + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.964016
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 2.966194
20 Lebanese_Druze + Sephardic_Jewish + Tuscan + West_Sicilian @ 2.984546

**Pine** · 08-21-2019, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by malka

Me:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 7.873355
2 Tuscan @ 11.192892
3 Romanian @ 12.606772
4 Portuguese @ 12.903976
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 13.908611
6 Serbian @ 13.981924
7 Bulgarian @ 14.144173
8 Spanish_Cataluna @ 14.181871
9 French @ 14.279465
10 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.344088
11 Spanish_Murcia @ 14.583304
12 Spanish_Valencia @ 15.119726
13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 15.129936
14 Spanish_Andalucia @ 15.378664
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 15.571917
16 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 16.637321
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.683826
18 West_German @ 17.336683
19 West_Sicilian @ 17.929005
20 Spanish_Cantabria @ 18.063725

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_German +50% West_Sicilian @ 3.035788

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.675984

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 2.384351
2 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Murcia + West_German @ 2.466455
3 Bulgarian + Danish + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.472423
4 Bulgarian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.517611
5 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia + West_German @ 2.524233
6 Italian_Abruzzo + Romanian + Spanish_Andalucia + West_German @ 2.527060
7 Bulgarian + Orcadian + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.530637
8 Bulgarian + North_Dutch + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.536341
9 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Dutch + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.539553
10 Bulgarian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.567811
11 Romanian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 2.595921
12 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 2.600824
13 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + South_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.630694
14 Bulgarian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.642423
15 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + North_German + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.643884
16 Greek_Thessaly + Norwegian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.647717
17 Danish + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.670655
18 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.675984
19 Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna + West_German @ 2.679787
20 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 2.680844

Dad (Ashkenazi):
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.960603
2 Italian_Jewish @ 6.044116
3 South_Italian @ 6.444309
4 Ashkenazi @ 6.482029
5 East_Sicilian @ 7.950457
6 Algerian_Jewish @ 8.303088
7 Central_Greek @ 9.270289
8 West_Sicilian @ 9.950133
9 Tunisian_Jewish @ 10.302912
10 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.747572
11 Libyan_Jewish @ 11.442703
12 Cyprian @ 15.245057
13 Greek_Thessaly @ 15.755469
14 Tuscan @ 17.296381
15 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.813856
16 Syrian @ 20.289333
17 Samaritan @ 21.795654
18 Lebanese_Druze @ 21.930397
19 Palestinian @ 22.019886
20 Jordanian @ 22.092493

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% North_Italian @ 3.455522

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% West_Sicilian @ 2.819887

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 2.664573
2 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + West_Sicilian @ 2.677815
3 Cyprian + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.727306
4 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.754729
5 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_French @ 2.761045
6 Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 2.763680
7 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia + West_Sicilian @ 2.819887
8 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.822206
9 Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 2.846075
10 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.874751
11 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.891011
12 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.898613
13 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Andalucia + West_Sicilian @ 2.904535
14 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.904998
15 Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.933523
16 Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 2.946065
17 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.950942
18 Cyprian + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.964016
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 2.966194
20 Lebanese_Druze + Sephardic_Jewish + Tuscan + West_Sicilian @ 2.984546

What does your dad score on his K13 values (before the oracle) ?

**malka** · 08-21-2019, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Pine

What does your dad score on his K13 values (before the oracle) ?

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.90
2 West_Med 18.73
3 North_Atlantic 17.32
4 West_Asian 13.45
5 Baltic 5.38
6 Red_Sea 5.07
7 East_Asian 1.67
8 Siberian 1.39
9 Northeast_African 1.07

**Pine** · 08-21-2019, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by malka

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.90
2 West_Med 18.73
3 North_Atlantic 17.32
4 West_Asian 13.45
5 Baltic 5.38
6 Red_Sea 5.07
7 East_Asian 1.67
8 Siberian 1.39
9 Northeast_African 1.07

10 virtual shekels that your father has ancestry from Belarus.

**malka** · 08-21-2019, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Pine

10 virtual shekels that your father has ancestry from Belarus.

maybe! One record says my g.grandmother was from Russia. We don't know much pre-Holocaust, my dad's fam was in Poland (and possibly Romania) before then.

**altaic** · 08-21-2019, 03:08 PM

V3 via yourdnaportal
Population Percentage
North_Atlantic 3.46%
Baltic 8.86%
West Mediterranean 10.17%
West Asian 32.67%
East Mediterranean 30.96%
Red Sea 4.92%
South Asian 5.45%
East Asian 0.57%
Siberian 1.41%
Amerindian 1.19%
Oceanian 0.14%
Northeast African 0.00%
Sub-Saharan 0.19%
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V5 via yourdnaportal
Population Percentage
North_Atlantic 2.03%
Baltic 9.01%
West Mediterranean 10.22%
West Asian 32.30%
East Mediterranean 33.07%
Red Sea 3.88%
South Asian 5.77%
East Asian 0.88%
Siberian 1.33%
Amerindian 1.28%
Oceanian 0.23%
Northeast African 0.00%
Sub-Saharan 0.00%
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V5 via GEDMatch

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.41
2 West_Asian 32.64
3 West_Med 9.83
4 Baltic 9.22
5 South_Asian 5.55
6 Red_Sea 3.68
7 North_Atlantic 1.83
8 Siberian 1.45
9 Amerindian 1.32
10 East_Asian 0.81
11 Oceanian 0.25

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V3 via GEDMatch
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 6.51
2 Turkish 6.96
3 Georgian_Jewish 8.92
4 Kurdish 9.24
5 Iranian 9.99
6 Armenian 10.17
7 Assyrian 10.5
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.18
9 Kurdish_Jewish 13.7
10 Kumyk 14.91
11 Lebanese_Muslim 15.23
12 Syrian 16.59
13 Turkmen 17.78
14 Adygei 18.24
15 Cyprian 18.24
16 Georgian 19.06
17 Balkar 19.36
18 Lebanese_Druze 20.13
19 Kabardin 20.15
20 Abhkasian 20.74
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V3 via yourdnaportal.com
Population Value
Azeri 21.2
Georgian_Jew 10.2
Assyrian 9.2
Turkish 8.6
Kurdish_Jew 5.2
Iranian 4.2
Iranian_Jew 4.2
Armenian 3.6
Lebanese_Druze 2.6
Adygei 2.4
Chechen 2.4
North_Ossetian 2.4
Kumyk 1.8
Cypriot 1.6
Lebanese_Christian 1.6
Lebanese_Muslim 1.6
Kabardin 1.2
Kurdish 1.2
Lezgin 1.2

**Pine** · 08-21-2019, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by malka

maybe! One record says my g.grandmother was from Russia. We don't know much pre-Holocaust, my dad's fam was in Poland (and possibly Romania) before then.

Ok, if you ever find out in more detail, let me know.

My results are similar:

Population
North_Atlantic 14.95 Pct
Baltic 4.98 Pct
West_Med 19.02 Pct
West_Asian 14.45 Pct
East_Med 35.68 Pct
Red_Sea 6.14 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 2.39 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.08 Pct
Oceanian 0.97 Pct
Northeast_African 0.18 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.16 Pct

You should've pasted them before you went to the Oracle page - that way all the values are visible. While in your case, only the top 9 values show up.