Post Eurogenes K13 - Fresh thread -

[malka]

It could also be reading your Jewish ancestry as Mediterranean Islander. I got a bunch of it on DNALAND. The lines he got on GPS origins aren't so bad - but the autosomal breakdown they give is retarded.

Their breakdown is awful I'm wondering if part of my dad's line is from Spain, that might explain his Southern scores and Mexican/Puerto Rican matches.

[Pine]

Their breakdown is awful I'm wondering if part of my dad's line is from Spain, that might explain his Southern scores and Mexican/Puerto Rican matches.

I'm sure all Ashkenazi Jews have some Spanish admixture. As far as your dad's scores go, I estimate that he plots south of 90-95% of Ashkenazi Jews. However, all Jews are primarily Mediterranean and Middle Eastern. Are the Mexican and Puerto Rican matches from AncestryDNA? How close are they? Do you mind sharing his Eurogenes K36?

[malka]

I'm sure all Ashkenazi Jews have some Spanish admixture. As far as your dad's scores go, I estimate that he plots south of 90-95% of Ashkenazi Jews. However, all Jews are primarily Mediterranean and Middle Eastern. Are the Mexican and Puerto Rican matches from AncestryDNA? How close are they? Do you mind sharing his Eurogenes K36?

Not close, all the matches are around 10cM segments, and they are on Ancestry. His Eurogenes K36:

Amerindian -
Arabian 3.42 Pct
Armenian 10.27 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.05 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.62 Pct
East_Balkan 2.28 Pct
East_Central_Asian 0.33 Pct
East_Central_Euro 0.75 Pct
East_Med 14.40 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 0.95 Pct
Iberian 10.99 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.96 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.93 Pct
North_African 3.56 Pct
North_Atlantic 2.45 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.41 Pct
North_Sea 4.98 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.32 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.37 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.19 Pct
West_Med 5.77 Pct

[Pine]

Not close, all the matches are around 10cM segments, and they are on Ancestry. His Eurogenes K36:

Amerindian -
Arabian 3.42 Pct
Armenian 10.27 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.05 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 0.62 Pct
East_Balkan 2.28 Pct
East_Central_Asian 0.33 Pct
East_Central_Euro 0.75 Pct
East_Med 14.40 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 0.95 Pct
Iberian 10.99 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.96 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.93 Pct
North_African 3.56 Pct
North_Atlantic 2.45 Pct
North_Caucasian 4.41 Pct
North_Sea 4.98 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian 0.32 Pct
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.37 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 3.19 Pct
West_Med 5.77 Pct

Many Ashkenazim get some Latino matches and it's through shared Sephardi ancestry, as opposed to shared Spanish ancestry, though that may be a part of the shared Sephardi. This is why he'll have almost no Spaniard matches. He's matching those who fled the inquisition. Also, to be far, more Latinos get tested than Spaniards. His Iberian+Basque score is average for an Ashkenazi, if not below, but his Armenian score is the highest I've seen. You should try triangulating the Latino matches.

[malka]

Many Ashkenazim get some Latino matches and it's through shared Sephardi ancestry, as opposed to shared Spanish ancestry, though that may be a part of the shared Sephardi. This is why he'll have almost no Spaniard matches. He's matching those who fled the inquisition. Also, to be far, more Latinos get tested than Spaniards. His Iberian+Basque score is average for an Ashkenazi, if not below, but his Armenian score is the highest I've seen. You should try triangulating the Latino matches.

That makes sense! That's probably also why his Latino matches come from the same family lines. What does Armenian represent on K36, more Caucasus admixture?

[Pine]

That makes sense! That's probably also why his Latino matches come from the same family lines. What does Armenian represent on K36, more Caucasus admixture?

It's probably related to the 1% Iran your dad gets on AncestryDNA. Could be a sign of Mizrachi admixture. Might just be an effect of random inheritance etc, as his Arabic is low. Hard to say. Does he get any Mizrachi cousin matches? If you're fine wasting money on HomeDNA, then get him on MyHeritage. It's much cheaper;has a Mizrachi reference and a larger database of people. It's not the most accurate, but it's more accurate than DNALAND.

[Dick]

We both tested with Ancestry, and Y-111 from FTDNA

What's his exact subclade? I thought that M267 would be more common with Sephardi

[Pine]

What's his exact subclade? I thought that M267 would be more common with Sephardi

There is barely a difference.

[Dick]

There is barely a difference.

Ashkenazi can be R1a, R1b and even I1

[Pine]

Ashkenazi can be R1a, R1b and even I1

Same goes for Sephardim.