Indian middle caste averages by State (S Indian, W Eurasian, and E Eurasian)

[Thambi]

thanks, but this isnt what i wanted. i already seen those(even ones with 24% SI). I remember someone said some jatts could get up to 25% and i wanted to see that

I think i meant NE euro + med. that person in the link posted by Leto has roughly the same euro combo (ne euro + med) as south indian.

[Bandesha]

i meant, i wasnt calling pamiris south asians(although some do approach pashtun cluster, the ones getting 10-11% SI)

[hussein khan]

Why do you send this to me? Why should i care?

[Bandesha]

Why do you send this to me? Why should i care?

hussein khan = gulmirza

[hussein khan]

Whats a gulmirza?

[Leto]

TBH, i dont think so.

I seen the gedmatch results of these jatts in G25 and seen the gedmatch results of iron age schythian sample from kazakhstan(i assume proto-indo-aryans are even more steppe shifted). They dont seem like they can get modelled as 40% pure european-alike steppe people with their amount of steppe admix, if steppe means entirely european. The sintashta reference got to have some minor iran-neo admix.

These are Middle-Late Bronze Age samples from Southeastern Kazakhstan (1700-1500 BC). I believe the kits were deleted, I saved the results

Kit Z092581

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 50.05
2 Baloch 19.73
3 Mediterranean 14.91
4 Caucasian 5.88
5 Siberian 3.17
6 American 3.16
7 S-Indian 1.04
8 Papuan 0.74
9 Pygmy 0.67
10 E-African 0.32
11 Beringian 0.25

Kit Z303460

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 53.6
2 Baloch 20.3
3 Mediterranean 13.72
4 Caucasian 4.06
5 Beringian 2.39
6 American 1.56
7 Siberian 1.08
8 W-African 0.98
9 S-Indian 0.84
10 Papuan 0.67
11 NE-Asian 0.55
12 SE-Asian 0.24

Kit Z740946

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 47.94
2 Baloch 21.58
3 Mediterranean 14.54
4 Caucasian 6.22
5 Siberian 4.16
6 American 3.38
7 Beringian 1.26
8 E-African 0.36
9 W-African 0.34
10 Pygmy 0.18

Kit Z523705

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 56.68
2 Baloch 20.5
3 Mediterranean 14.27
4 Caucasian 2.06
5 American 1.91
6 Siberian 1.49
7 S-Indian 1.3
8 Beringian 0.8
9 Papuan 0.59
10 W-African 0.17
11 Pygmy 0.13

[hussein khan]

These are Middle-Late Bronze Age samples from Southeastern Kazakhstan (1700-1500 BC). I believe the kits were deleted, I saved the results

Kit Z092581

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 50.05
2 Baloch 19.73
3 Mediterranean 14.91
4 Caucasian 5.88
5 Siberian 3.17
6 American 3.16
7 S-Indian 1.04
8 Papuan 0.74
9 Pygmy 0.67
10 E-African 0.32
11 Beringian 0.25

Kit Z303460

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 53.6
2 Baloch 20.3
3 Mediterranean 13.72
4 Caucasian 4.06
5 Beringian 2.39
6 American 1.56
7 Siberian 1.08
8 W-African 0.98
9 S-Indian 0.84
10 Papuan 0.67
11 NE-Asian 0.55
12 SE-Asian 0.24

Kit Z740946

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 47.94
2 Baloch 21.58
3 Mediterranean 14.54
4 Caucasian 6.22
5 Siberian 4.16
6 American 3.38
7 Beringian 1.26
8 E-African 0.36
9 W-African 0.34
10 Pygmy 0.18

Kit Z523705

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 56.68
2 Baloch 20.5
3 Mediterranean 14.27
4 Caucasian 2.06
5 American 1.91
6 Siberian 1.49
7 S-Indian 1.3
8 Beringian 0.8
9 Papuan 0.59
10 W-African 0.17
11 Pygmy 0.13

Well, seems like they can get modelled as around 35-40% after all. But i thought the samples would be like extremely european. Seems like they arent and are very dravidian-admixed as i expected

[Leto]

Well, seems like they can get modelled as around 35-40% after all. But i thought the samples would be like extremely european. Seems like they arent and are very dravidian-admixed as i expected

Where do you see the Dravidian? They're literally 0-1% South Indian. And the Baloch is not really South Asian, it's South-Central Asian (Gedrosia), therefore Caucasoid/West Eurasian. You can see modern British and Irish people getting 7-8% Baloch/Gedrosia on Harappa & Dodecad.

[hussein khan]

Where do you see the Dravidian? They're literally 0-1% South Indian. And the Baloch is not really South Asian, it's South-Central Asian (Gedrosia), therefore Caucasoid/West Eurasian. You can see modern British and Irish people getting 7-8% Baloch/Gedrosia on Harappa & Dodecad.

Talking about dravidians. The iranian neolithics. A good portion of them can even be less than 3% SI.

Anyway, i meant the baloch. Sure europeans can get 4-8% baloch, but the steppe people getting even a bit above 20% baloch makes this bigger affinity to south asians.

[turbosat]

Actually most of the S. Indian component in Harrapa is E. Eurasian because Malayans score 79% of it. Indians in general carry a ton of E. Eurasian of the SE Asian type. Here are some of the top S. Indian scorers from the Harappa spreadsheet

Population	S-Indian
paniya	83.99
irula	83.22
pulliyar	83.21
malayan	79.06
malayan	75.49
bhunjia	73.39
santhal	73.25
dhurwa	73.2
mala	72.93
tn-dalit	72.65
santhal	72.41
ap-mala	72.2
asur	72.09
nihali	71.66
kurumba	70.26
hakkipikki	70.22
north-kannadi	70.13
madiga	69.83
ho	69.5
mawasi	69.35
ap-madiga	69.27
kharia	69.06
savara	68.71
chenchu	68.63
tamil-vishwakarma	68.01
kharia	67.68
sakilli	67.59
bhil	67.12
chamar	66.47
gond	65.87
kamsali	65.55
gadaba	64.79
vysya	64.11
sahariya	63.75

The Malayan shown in your table are a South Indian tribe from Tamil Nadu and Kerala states. Nothing to do with Malaysians (Malayans).

https://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/17436/IN Malayan, tribe in India
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_tribe