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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    those 2 with kit numbers starting with T are probably Herzegovians too. Cumansky posted them in this thread

    if you divide Bosnians From Herzegovians, Bosnians mostly overlap with Serbs, Herzegovinians are all north of Serbs
    Probably because Croatian population is very homogenous in Herzegovina, they mixed less with Serbs than Bosnian Croats did.

    Hrvoje has some ancestry from NE Bosnia and he plots south of me (his father is Slovenian and mother mix of north and Bosnian Croat with some Czech). His Bosnian side is probably pulling him south. He mentioned this possibility himself.

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    K13 of Serb from Smederevo, his y dna is J2b-M205 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smederevo

    # Population percent
    1 Baltic 32.64
    2 North_Atlantic 25.7
    3 East_Med 16.03
    4 West_Med 14.53
    5 West_Asian 6.26
    6 Red_Sea 3.67
    7 Siberian 1.17

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Serbian 5.86
    2 Moldavian 6.43
    3 Croatian 7.22
    4 Hungarian 8.43
    5 Romanian 9.13

    Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 58% Belorussian + 42% West_Sicilian @ 2.03
    2 58.6% Estonin_Polish + 41.4% West_Sicilian @ 2.33
    3 67.7% Polish + 32.3% Italian_Jewish @ 2.47
    4 62.5% Polish + 37.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.48
    5 52.5% Lithuanian + 47.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeirdLookingFellow View Post
    At this stage considering the results not much, but a paleo-Balkan latinised people that did not receive significant east Slavic admixture.

    To answer Aspirin, I didn't check the MtDNA diversity. If the diversity is low and only one Y-Dna amounts to almost 50% you may be able to talk about an isolated population that is homogenous, so it might say a few things about the Vlachs, maybe. This is just a supposition.
    Again I2 din has nothing to do with Latinised Balkanites, it's a Slavic marker. And SW Slavs have much more of it than Romanians do as well as much more autosomally northern ancestry.

    What is not clear here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Again I2 din has nothing to do with Latinised Balkanites, it's a Slavic marker. And SW Slavs have much more of it than Romanians do as well as much more autosomally northern ancestry.

    What is not clear here ?
    I2a-Din has a strong Vlachic vibe!

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    Vojvodinian Serb (his father is from Banat and his mother is from Syrmia). His y dna is I2-PH908.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    I2a-Din has a strong Vlachic vibe!
    Both my sides are I2 din and we are definitelly not Vlach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Both my sides are I2 din and we are definitelly not Vlach.
    If your father has value 14-19 on marker than you wuz Serbian vlachs Bunjevci.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Again I2 din has nothing to do with Latinised Balkanites, it's a Slavic marker. And SW Slavs have much more of it than Romanians do as well as much more autosomally northern ancestry.

    What is not clear here ?
    Stop being tired (ref. to last post) since I did not state directly that I2a1 is Vlach. I said that due to the high concentration (and then later added low mtDNA diversity) we might be talking about a population that seems less influenced by Slavs from the NE of Romania. My only supposition was that they might be scoring in a similar area as I am.

    Regardless, it doesn's explain very well why I2a1 raises significantly in Moldova in comparison to south Romania, at most it might help with the theory that I also found on this forum relating to the Balkans as the original Slav breeding ground.
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    EU TEST 86.9% RO + 13.1% West_&_Central_German @ 4.98
    K13 56.9% Tu(ran)scan + 43.1% Ukrainian @ 4.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    If your father has value 14-19 on marker than you wuz Serbian vlachs Bunjevci.
    Your disgusting propaganda is just miserable and shitty, since Herzegivina Croats don't cluster with Serbs at all.

    Mind your own business and leave other nations alone.

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    Some more results...

    User Ogi24 from the Brda region of Montenegro (Piperi and Vasojevići)

    Admix Results (sorted):



    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 17.64
    2 North_Sea 16.9
    3 West_Med 15.77
    4 Baltic 15.68
    5 Atlantic 13.66
    6 Eastern_Euro 11.6
    7 West_Asian 6.73
    8 Red_Sea 2.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 6.39
    2 Bulgarian 6.61
    3 Serbian 7.1
    4 Greek_Thessaly 9.76
    5 Greek 11.43
    6 Moldavian 11.52
    7 Hungarian 13.3
    8 Croatian 13.38
    9 Tuscan 13.79
    10 Austrian 14.16
    11 North_Italian 14.32
    12 Italian_Abruzzo 16.01
    13 Ashkenazi 16.07
    14 Central_Greek 16.43
    15 West_Sicilian 16.8
    16 East_Sicilian 17.22
    17 East_German 17.48
    18 Spanish_Galicia 18.29
    19 Portuguese 18.64
    20 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.78

    User Bosniensis, Bosniak from Bihać (also 1/4 Gorani)

    Eurogenes K15 Gedmatch:

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 19.45
    2 Eastern_Euro 14.43
    3 North_Sea 14.33
    4 Atlantic 13.92
    5 East_Med 13.37
    6 West_Med 12.52
    7 West_Asian 9.68
    8 Red_Sea 1.85
    9 Sub-Saharan 0.42
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.04
    11 South_Asian 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 5.57
    2 Bulgarian 6.45
    3 Serbian 6.53
    4 Moldavian 6.79
    5 Croatian 8.85
    6 Hungarian 11.31
    7 Austrian 11.86
    8 Greek_Thessaly 14.15
    9 Greek 14.45

    Serb from Glamoč, Bosnia:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 22.08
    2 Atlantic 17.79
    3 North_Sea 15.14
    4 West_Med 15.1
    5 West_Asian 9.98
    6 East_Med 9.35
    7 Eastern_Euro 8.77
    8 Red_Sea 1.52
    9 Oceanian 0.15
    10 Siberian 0.11

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 7.49
    2 Bulgarian 8.39
    3 Croatian 8.54
    4 Moldavian 8.55
    5 Serbian 8.73
    6 Austrian 10.68
    7 Hungarian 10.75
    8 East_German 14.15
    9 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.41
    10 South_Polish 14.83
    11 Ukrainian 15.53
    12 Greek_Thessaly 16.04
    13 Greek 16.45
    14 North_Italian 17.09
    15 Polish 17.45
    16 Russian_Smolensk 17.5
    17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.23
    18 Tuscan 18.37
    19 French 18.82
    20 Southwest_Russian 18.92

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 50.7% Bulgarian + 49.3% Croatian @ 5.12
    2 70.1% Croatian + 29.9% Greek @ 5.38
    3 68.4% Bulgarian + 31.6% South_Polish @ 5.45
    4 67.7% Bulgarian + 32.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.48
    5 79% Croatian + 21% South_Italian @ 5.48
    6 73% Croatian + 27% Tuscan @ 5.58
    7 70% Croatian + 30% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.59
    8 72.6% Bulgarian + 27.4% Polish @ 5.6
    9 69.9% Bulgarian + 30.1% Ukrainian @ 5.62
    10 76.8% Croatian + 23.2% Central_Greek @ 5.63
    11 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% East_Sicilian @ 5.69
    12 78.3% Bulgarian + 21.7% Lithuanian @ 5.71
    13 56.7% Romanian + 43.3% Croatian @ 5.71
    14 85.4% Croatian + 14.6% Sardinian @ 5.71
    15 56% Tuscan + 44% Lithuanian @ 5.77
    16 73.1% Bulgarian + 26.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.78
    17 76.5% Croatian + 23.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.83
    18 76% Bulgarian + 24% Estonian_Polish @ 5.85
    19 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Belorussian @ 5.85
    20 78.2% Croatian + 21.8% West_Sicilian @ 5.98

    Serb/Montenegrin from Podgorica:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_Med 17.22
    2 Baltic 17.16
    3 East_Med 15.5
    4 North_Sea 13.93
    5 West_Asian 11.69
    6 Eastern_Euro 11.37
    7 Atlantic 10.03
    8 Red_Sea 1.95
    9 Siberian 0.78
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.36
    11 Amerindian 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Bulgarian 6.35
    2 Romanian 7.17
    3 Greek_Thessaly 9.61
    4 Serbian 10.07
    5 Greek 11.21
    6 Moldavian 11.61
    7 Croatian 14.54
    8 Hungarian 15.71
    9 Tuscan 15.78
    10 Central_Greek 15.98
    11 Ashkenazi 15.98
    12 Italian_Abruzzo 16.62
    13 Austrian 17.07
    14 East_Sicilian 17.11
    15 North_Italian 17.19
    16 West_Sicilian 18.3
    17 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.52
    18 South_Italian 19.58
    19 East_German 20.14
    20 Ukrainian 20.4

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.6% Greek_Thessaly + 24.4% Erzya @ 4.5
    2 55.8% Greek_Thessaly + 44.2% Moldavian @ 4.54
    3 72.8% Greek_Thessaly + 27.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.78
    4 73.7% Greek_Thessaly + 26.3% Southwest_Russian @ 4.93
    5 70.6% Greek_Thessaly + 29.4% Ukrainian @ 4.98
    6 51.1% Greek + 48.9% Moldavian @ 5.03
    7 59.2% Moldavian + 40.8% Central_Greek @ 5.04
    8 75.6% Greek_Thessaly + 24.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.06
    9 75.5% Greek_Thessaly + 24.5% Estonian_Polish @ 5.13
    10 73.3% Moldavian + 26.7% Cyprian @ 5.17
    11 64.5% Moldavian + 35.5% South_Italian @ 5.17
    12 69.9% Greek_Thessaly + 30.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.19
    13 77.7% Greek_Thessaly + 22.3% Lithuanian @ 5.24
    14 73.9% Greek_Thessaly + 26.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.26
    15 75.8% Greek_Thessaly + 24.2% Belorussian @ 5.35
    16 62.9% Greek_Thessaly + 37.1% Croatian @ 5.37
    17 71.5% Greek_Thessaly + 28.5% South_Polish @ 5.37
    18 61.3% Moldavian + 38.7% East_Sicilian @ 5.43
    19 56.7% Central_Greek + 43.3% Ukrainian @ 5.49
    20 74.4% Greek_Thessaly + 25.6% Polish @ 5.55

    Serb/Montenegrin from Berane (Vasojevići):

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 22.16
    2 Baltic 17.05
    3 West_Med 16.03
    4 East_Med 14.13
    5 West_Asian 10.98
    6 Eastern_Euro 9.42
    7 Atlantic 8.82
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.8
    9 South_Asian 0.32
    10 Siberian 0.18
    11 Northeast_African 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 9.15
    2 Serbian 10
    3 Bulgarian 10.59
    4 Moldavian 11.12
    5 Greek_Thessaly 12.48
    6 Hungarian 12.73
    7 Croatian 14.22
    8 Austrian 16.09
    9 Greek 16.16
    10 East_German 17.05
    11 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.7
    12 Tuscan 17.86
    13 North_Italian 18.04
    14 Ukrainian 18.64
    15 West_German 18.73
    16 South_Polish 19.21
    17 Central_Greek 19.5
    18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.52
    19 Ashkenazi 19.59
    20 French 19.66

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 62.2% Greek_Thessaly + 37.8% Ukrainian @ 6.62
    2 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.71
    3 54.4% Moldavian + 45.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.87
    4 50.7% Greek_Thessaly + 49.3% Hungarian @ 6.89
    5 70.8% Greek_Thessaly + 29.2% Estonian @ 7.12
    6 68.9% Greek_Thessaly + 31.1% Finnish @ 7.23
    7 63.7% Greek_Thessaly + 36.3% South_Polish @ 7.26
    8 70.4% Greek_Thessaly + 29.6% North_Swedish @ 7.69
    9 68% Greek_Thessaly + 32% Polish @ 7.7
    10 60.8% Greek_Thessaly + 39.2% East_German @ 7.75
    11 71.1% Greek_Thessaly + 28.9% East_Finnish @ 7.8
    12 69.8% Greek_Thessaly + 30.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 7.83
    13 55% Greek_Thessaly + 45% Croatian @ 7.9
    14 69.5% Moldavian + 30.5% Central_Greek @ 7.92
    15 71.1% Greek_Thessaly + 28.9% Swedish @ 7.96
    16 51.4% Ukrainian + 48.6% Central_Greek @ 7.96
    17 73.4% Greek_Thessaly + 26.6% Lithuanian @ 7.97
    18 73.7% Moldavian + 26.3% South_Italian @ 8.01
    19 53% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47% Central_Greek @ 8.03
    20 64.3% Hungarian + 35.7% Central_Greek @ 8.06

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