South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Jana]

If your father has value 14-19 on marker than you wuz Serbian vlachs Bunjevci.

Which marker, DYS385 ?

No, he has 14-15

[Pribislav]

Serbian woman from Vojvodina K13.

1 Baltic 29.38
2 North_Atlantic 26.74
3 West_Med 17.49
4 East_Med 12.82
5 West_Asian 10.1
6 South_Asian 0.86
7 Amerindian 0.8
8 Northeast_African 0.66
9 Oceanian 0.65
10 East_Asian 0.5

1 Serbian 4.85
2 Moldavian 6.29
3 Romanian 8.01
4 Croatian 8.52
5 Hungarian 8.76
6 Bulgarian 10.7
7 Austrian 12.31
8 East_German 13.7
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.05
10 South_Polish 16.57

Her K12 dodecad.

North_European 40.67
Atlantic_Med 25.96
Caucasus 21.17
Gedrosia 5.99
Southwest_Asian 3.05
Northwest_African 1.72
Southeast_Asian 0.7
East_Asian 0.49
South_Asian 0.24

[Insuperable]

they have 71% i2 and 12% r1a. 83% together.
one i posted gets 90% Ukrainian + 10% Cyprian in oracle. they one of the most Slavic South Slavs, but their pre-Slavic population was something exotic and different from the rest of Balkans. that's why they look exotic.

Are you talking about this person?

Spoiler!

T063442 Croatian T063442

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.41
2 North_Sea 19.6
3 Eastern_Euro 16.76
4 East_Med 10.82
5 Atlantic 10.79
6 West_Med 9.98
7 West_Asian 4.87
8 Red_Sea 1.4
9 Northeast_African 0.89
10 Siberian 0.28
11 Southeast_Asian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.14
2 Croatian 7.54
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.23
4 Ukrainian 8.73
5 Hungarian 9.19
6 South_Polish 9.7
7 Serbian 11.12
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.86
9 Polish 12.11
10 Southwest_Russian 12.17
11 Russian_Smolensk 12.53
12 Romanian 12.71
13 Austrian 12.76
14 Belorussian 13.85
15 Estonian_Polish 14.08
16 East_German 14.48
17 Bulgarian 14.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.18
19 Estonian 15.81
20 Erzya 16.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.6% Ukrainian + 15.4% Samaritan @ 3.15
2 85% Ukrainian + 15% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.25
3 85% Ukrainian + 15% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.35
4 82.4% Ukrainian + 17.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.38
5 83.2% Ukrainian + 16.8% Cyprian @ 3.47
6 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Palestinian @ 3.59
7 84.3% Ukrainian + 15.7% Jordanian @ 3.72
8 82.9% Ukrainian + 17.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.92
9 81.7% Ukrainian + 18.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.94
10 84% Ukrainian + 16% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.95
11 84.1% Ukrainian + 15.9% Syrian @ 4
12 81.4% Ukrainian + 18.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.03
13 77.1% Ukrainian + 22.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.07
14 87.6% Ukrainian + 12.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.07
15 85.8% Ukrainian + 14.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.12
16 86.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.7% Samaritan @ 4.18
17 84.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 15.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.21
18 86.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.23
19 72.7% Ukrainian + 27.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.23
20 86.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.24

There is nothing exotic about that person for a South Slav person.

The red dot is where person plots. You looked at the Oracle and draw a line from Ukrainian to Cyprus because that is what Oracle came up with. But things like that happen all the time. People don't exactly come out from factory lines (random genetic recombination) so that we all need to be governed by random reference groups. That is why people get results they do.



Why not Belgorod + Tuscan or Ukrainian+Greek? (I understand this kind of thinking is not right too, that is drawing straight lines right through dot, but you get the point) Oh yeah right, Oracle told you otherwise.

[Insuperable]

Interesting.

NOT

[Insuperable]

Northern ploting is "cure" for complexes of woggish people btw.

Says the guy who talks about pigmentation most the time. Based on your classification threads one would think you come from Poland or smth.

You confuse southern Serbs with Gypsies. Most of Gypsies in Serbia live in southern Serbia.
In reality southern Serbs are not dark as many people imagine them including many Serbs.

Herzegovinian Croatians are visible darker than Bosnian Serbs. People like Dragan Đilas, Marko Marin, Nemanja Bilbija, Branko Ćopić, Goran Kostić, Ratko Mladić, Ognjen Kuzmić, Branislav Krunić (all are Bosnian Serbs, except last one who is Herzegovinian Serb) etc. can be found among faumos Herzegovinian Croatians who looks usualy like Zdravko Mamić and Milan Bandić.
Herzegovinian Croatians are most meddish and darkest group in BiH.

Swarthy and proud bruh.

Everytime I meet random Serb I am like:


When I do meet some light haired and/or light eyed person I contemplate in wonder and keep saying to myself: this person has to be at least 1% Hyperborean, this person has to be at least 1% Serbian.

[Zmey Gorynych]

Minor? lol, that guy is mixed af. He have Boyko, Polish Goral, and Romanian Moldavian origins, plus he speculated to have some Germanic ancestry. Ironically he don't plot too Northern, he is similar to you, and I think this is because of Balkan influence on genetics of his Slavic ancestors who was mostly Carpathian Slavs.

That's why I said minor. Although he is half slav he's not far at all from moldavians.

[Aspirin]

That's why I said minor. Although he is half slav he's not far at all from moldavians.

Still he can't be counted as Moldavian because he is only half, doesn't matter his autosomal results. Same can be saying about other individuals like Seya, or Daos777 from RM.

[vbnetkhio]

Are you talking about this person?


There is nothing exotic about that person for a South Slav person.

The red dot is where person plots. You looked at the Oracle and draw a line from Ukrainian to Cyprus because that is what Oracle came up with. But things like that happen all the time. People don't exactly come out from factory lines (random genetic recombination) so that we all need to be governed by random reference groups. That is why people get results they do.



Why not Belgorod + Tuscan or Ukrainian+Greek? (I understand this kind of thinking is not right too, that is drawing straight lines right through dot, but you get the point) Oh yeah right, Oracle told you otherwise.

what's a normal South Slavic result? here's some random South Slavs from the past few pages

1 Baltic 18.33
2 Atlantic 18.25
3 East_Med 17.34

1 Atlantic 21.35
2 North_Sea 19.27
3 East_Med 14.2

1 Baltic 18.05
2 North_Sea 16.28
3 Atlantic 15.88

they all get some Baltic, some East Med ... it's all the same, all people are the same, all results are normal?
yes, of course i prefer the oracle to the pca. for example, that Serb who plots near the Austrian point gets Serb+German in oracle.
he could get Polish/Ukrainian + Italian/Spanish/French like all the others who plot there, but the oracle detects specific proportions which make him Serb+German instead.
he didn't come from a factory line of course, that's a very simplified model of his ancestry, but it shows the general direction.

this is what the creator of k15 says about the oracles:
Eurogenes EUtestV2 K15 I just tried it myself, and have say that the 4-Ancestors Oracle results were impressive. In other words, they were very accurate based on what I know about my recent ancestry. On the other hand, I'd say the default Oracle was picking up more ancient gene flows.

did he just look at his admixture results and plotting, and say "that looks pretty Polish to me"? no, he went straight to the oracle.

this Croat fits best as Ukraine + Levant. the fact that he plots west of that line on PCA also means something, it means he also has some small additional influence which pulls him west from that mix.

[vbnetkhio]

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[Dick]

Nice work dude