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    the results aren't interesting only for the Yamnaya - look how other components are spread in the territory (WHG, Kura Araxes, Tepecik vs Barcin, Ganj Dareh...) and where some components suddenly stop or highly decrease. one can guess some basic broad population dispersal and interaction just by looking at these scores

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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    bell beaker and corded ware
    Yes, but as has been said there is something ancestral to Corded Ware that is not quite Yamnaya.

    [1] "distance%=4.006"

    Creoda_scaled

    Corded_Ware_DEU,66.4
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,24.4
    WHG,9.2

    [1] "distance%=3.1227"

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    Corded_Ware_DEU,67
    Scotland_N,32.2
    WHG,0.8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Yes, but as has been said there is something ancestral to Corded Ware that is not quite Yamnaya.

    [1] "distance%=4.006"

    Creoda_scaled

    Corded_Ware_DEU,66.4
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,24.4
    WHG,9.2

    [1] "distance%=3.1227"

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    Corded_Ware_DEU,67
    Scotland_N,32.2
    WHG,0.8
    that's what i'm saying. bellbeaker, corded ware and yamnaya should all be included in the model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    most to least Yamnaya ancestry. I've run it all in R. using Polako's model.

    many Orientals seem to have more Yamnaya ancestry than many Europeans

    if you have G25 scaled I can run your coordinates to compare with the list.


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    Hi Nurzat - Could you please run me with that model? Thank you.

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    Grace_scaled,0.138864,0.136081,0.064488,0.052003, 0.036314,0.017291,0.001645,0.006231,0.004909,-0.00328,-0.009094,0.004646,-0.011298,-0.009771,0.029994,0.005701,-0.007041,-0.004434,0.000377,0.007879,0.007112,0.007296,-0.005793,0.010845,-0.000479


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    Grace_unscaled,0.0122,0.0134,0.0171,0.0161,0.0118 ,0.0062,0.0007,0.0027,0.0024,-0.0018,-0.0056,0.0031,-0.0076,-0.0071,0.0221,0.0043,-0.0054,-0.0035,0.0003,0.0063,0.0057,0.0059,-0.0047,0.009,-0.0004
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    Please run mine. Thanks

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    Could you run mine? Appreciate it.

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    Modeled with your spreadsheet then removed the components which is 0. Final results:

    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
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    How close do Yamnaya plot to EHG, CHG, and ANE? Which one is more dominant in their ancestry? I know these guys had to come from those populations they didn’t just grow like mushrooms on the steppe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    Hi Nurzat - Could you please run me with that model? Thank you.

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    you Anglos get nice results, just a few components, not the diarrhea of components we get in the East, we seem to be a mix of everything.

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    "distance%=4.8384"

    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,50.2
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,34.4
    WHG,15.4


    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    Please run mine. Thanks

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    "distance%=3.2789"

    Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,46.7
    Anatolia_Barcin_N,45.9
    WHG,7.4

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    Please ruin mine. Thanks.

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