The great Yamnaya ladder

[Nurzat]

Adding Sredny_Stog instead of Yamnaya worsens my fit.

sample": "Custom:Feiichy_scaled",
"fit": 4.62,

"UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En": 60.83,
"Anatolia_Barcin_N": 29.17,
"WHG": 10,

So this isn't a good model for steppe admixture.

mine (dunno why on Polako's model now I get 47, it was 45.8 - does it recalculate each time?):

"distance%=3.9502"
UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En,54.4
Anatolia_Barcin_N,25.6
RUS_Khvalynsk_En,6.9
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,5.8
WHG,4.9
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,1.7
Han,0.7
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0
Levant_PPNB,0
Nganassan,0

"distance%=4.3694"
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,47
Anatolia_Barcin_N,44
WHG,8.3
Han,0.7
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0
Dinka,0
ETH_4500BP,0
Gambian,0
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3,0
Jarawa,0
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0
Levant_PPNB,0
MAR_Iberomaurusian,0
Nganassan,0
Yoruba,0

[J. Ketch]

Thanks Yes, can be. We have quite more CHG than north Euros have. Also in Balkans Yamnaya type of R1b is common.
I tried model myself with Corded_Ware DEU and it gave me better fit.

For NW Europeans Bell Beaker is best fit for steppe input ?

Yep. German Corded Ware is an equally good fit, which suggests they are directly ancestral to BB.

[1] "distance%=3.1612"

         Creoda_scaled

Bell_Beaker_NLD,82.8
Scotland_N,17.2

[1] "distance%=3.1227"

Creoda_scaled

Corded_Ware_DEU,67
Scotland_N,32.2
WHG,0.8

[vbnetkhio]

Adding Sredny_Stog instead of Yamnaya worsens my fit.

sample": "Custom:Feiichy_scaled",
"fit": 4.62,

"UKR_Sredny_Stog_II_En": 60.83,
"Anatolia_Barcin_N": 29.17,
"WHG": 10,

So this isn't a good model for steppe admixture.

[1] "distance%=2.217"

         Feodora

Bell_Beaker_CZE_o,21.8
Corded_Ware_Baltic,19.4
Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA,14
Nordic_LN,8
Bell_Beaker_HUN,5.8
Bell_Beaker_Rhine-Main,4
BGR_MP_N,2
Corded_Ware_POL,1.8
HUN_ALPc_III_MN,1.2
Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o,1.2
GRC_Peloponnese_N,1
HUN_Lengyel_LN,1
ROU_C,1
BGR_Late_C,0.8
HUN_Koros_N,0.8
IRN_Tepe_Abdul_Hosein_N,0.8
SAHG,0.8
BGR_Krepost_N,0.6
HRV_Impressa_N,0.6
HUN_ALPc_I_MN,0.6
HUN_ALPc_MN,0.6
IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C,0.6
POL_BKG_N_o1,0.6
POL_BKG_N_o2,0.6
TKM_Tepe_Anau_En,0.6
Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia,0.6
Anatolia_Pinarbasi_HG,0.4
BGR_N,0.4
DEU_Esperstedt_MN,0.4
HUN_Balaton_Lasinja_CA,0.4
HUN_Bu_kk_MN,0.4
HUN_LCA,0.4
HUN_Vinca_MN,0.4
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.4
IRN_Seh_Gabi_LN,0.4
IRN_Wezmeh_N,0.4
ROU_Iron_Gates_HG,0.4
RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.4
SRB_Iron_Gates_HG,0.4
SRB_N,0.4
Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.2
Anatolia_Boncuklu_N,0.2
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.2
BedouinA,0.2
Corded_Ware_Baltic_early,0.2
CZE_MN,0.2
DEU_LBK_N,0.2
GEO_CHG,0.2
GRC_N,0.2
Han,0.2
HUN_Baden_LCA,0.2
HUN_Koros_N_HG,0.2
HUN_Sopot_LN,0.2
IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,0.2
MKD_N,0.2
POL_BKG_N,0.2
ROU_Iron_Gates_N,0.2
UZB_Bustan_En,0.2

[Vid Flumina]

"sample": "Custom:VFlumina_scaled",
"fit": 2.8057,
"Anatolia_Barcin_N": 55,
"Yamnaya_RUS_Samara": 40.83,
"ITA_Villabruna": 4.17,
"Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N": 0,
"Han": 0,
"Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps": 0,
"Levant_PPNB": 0,
"MAR_Iberomaurusian": 0,
"Nganassan": 0,

[J. Ketch]

mine (dunno why on Polako's model now I get 47, it was 45.8 - does it recalculate each time?):

You have to use pen=0 to get the same scores every time and remove a lot of the noise.

[Nurzat]

You have to use pen=0 to get the same scores every time and remove a lot of the noise.

how do I do that in R? lemme see. brb

[Yamnaya]

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Oleg_scaled,0.129758,0.083273,0.071276,0.063631,0. 016003,0.022032,0.022326,0.011076,-0.00225,-0.034989,0.013641,-0.005395,0.020069,0.012661,-0.021715,-0.003182,0.008345,-0.00266,-0.003394,0.002126,-0.003494,-0.009274,0.002835,-0.01205,-0.001197

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Oleg,0.0114,0.0082,0.0189,0.0197,0.0052,0.0079,0.0 095,0.0048,-0.0011,-0.0192,0.0084,-0.0036,0.0135,0.0092,-0.016,-0.0024,0.0064,-0.0021,-0.0027,0.0017,-0.0028,-0.0075,0.0023,-0.01,-0.001


Mine, i'm russian 1/4 bashkir

mine nursat

[Nurzat]

mine nursat

already did yours here, with the name "Alek":

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6229049

[Yamnaya]

already did yours here, with the name "Alek":

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6229049

Thanks! Have you tested other Russians? What's the average score for them in Global25?

[Yamnaya]

For basic components project this the best I seen for me by Ph2ter:


[1]"distance%=4.8489"

MykhailoTepes

EURASIAN-STEPPE, 42.6
ANATOLIA-EEF, 20.2
LEVANT, 18.2
EUROPE-WHG, 8
EAST-ASIA, 5.4
INDIA, 2.4
ATLAS, 1.6
WEST-SIBERIA-HG, 1.6

Are you using nMonte?

This are mine:

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Oleg_scaled,0.129758,0.083273,0.071276,0.063631,0. 016003,0.022032,0.022326,0.011076,-0.00225,-0.034989,0.013641,-0.005395,0.020069,0.012661,-0.021715,-0.003182,0.008345,-0.00266,-0.003394,0.002126,-0.003494,-0.009274,0.002835,-0.01205,-0.001197

,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
Oleg,0.0114,0.0082,0.0189,0.0197,0.0052,0.0079,0.0 095,0.0048,-0.0011,-0.0192,0.0084,-0.0036,0.0135,0.0092,-0.016,-0.0024,0.0064,-0.0021,-0.0027,0.0017,-0.0028,-0.0075,0.0023,-0.01,-0.001