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    I've talked to Coldmountains on anthrogenica and asked him to give a response for Iranians and steppe admixture:


    Hi, sorry for the late reply. If we define steppe as Sintashta/Steppe MLBA-like ancestry than around 20% i would say and Iranians from Khorasan, Sistan and Yazd would come closest to that.

    For example i got this on Vahaduo for Zoroastrians which are from Yazd if i am not wrong and the most steppe shifted Iranians which are in the global25 spreadsheet currently. Kashkarchi are Steppe_MLBA-like people in Uzbekistan. They are almost identical to Sintashta only a bit mixed with Central Asians. I have not found the global25 coordinates of Khorasani people but i guess they are inbetween these Zoroastrians and Afghan Pashtuns. More South Asian/Iran_Neo and a bit more steppe shifted. Pashtuns are around 25-30% Sintashta-like in most estimates.


    Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
    Distance: 1.5925% / 0.01592535
    Aggregated
    54.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    17.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    14.6 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
    8.4 Levant_Natufian
    2.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
    1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.0 Mongola

    But if we assume that steppe Iranics mixed heavily with BMAC before they entered Iran than the genetic change was much bigger. I replaced Kashkarchi with Turkmenistan_IA which was Pamiri-like and 50% Steppe_MLBA and 50% BMAC-like. So the most Steppe mixed Iranians in Khorasan are probably around 35-40% Turkmenistan_IA-like i guess.

    Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
    Distance: 1.3016% / 0.01301572
    Aggregated
    39.2 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    27.0 TKM_IA
    17.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    8.6 Levant_Natufian
    5.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
    0.4 Mongola

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    I've talked to Coldmountains on anthrogenica and asked him to give a response for Iranians and steppe admixture:


    Hi, sorry for the late reply. If we define steppe as Sintashta/Steppe MLBA-like ancestry than around 20% i would say and Iranians from Khorasan, Sistan and Yazd would come closest to that.

    For example i got this on Vahaduo for Zoroastrians which are from Yazd if i am not wrong and the most steppe shifted Iranians which are in the global25 spreadsheet currently. Kashkarchi are Steppe_MLBA-like people in Uzbekistan. They are almost identical to Sintashta only a bit mixed with Central Asians. I have not found the global25 coordinates of Khorasani people but i guess they are inbetween these Zoroastrians and Afghan Pashtuns. More South Asian/Iran_Neo and a bit more steppe shifted. Pashtuns are around 25-30% Sintashta-like in most estimates.


    Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
    Distance: 1.5925% / 0.01592535
    Aggregated
    54.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    17.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    14.6 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
    8.4 Levant_Natufian
    2.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
    1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.0 Mongola

    But if we assume that steppe Iranics mixed heavily with BMAC before they entered Iran than the genetic change was much bigger. I replaced Kashkarchi with Turkmenistan_IA which was Pamiri-like and 50% Steppe_MLBA and 50% BMAC-like. So the most Steppe mixed Iranians in Khorasan are probably around 35-40% Turkmenistan_IA-like i guess.

    Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
    Distance: 1.3016% / 0.01301572
    Aggregated
    39.2 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    27.0 TKM_IA
    17.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    8.6 Levant_Natufian
    5.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
    0.4 Mongola
    Sup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Babak View Post
    I've talked to Coldmountains on anthrogenica and asked him to give a response for Iranians and steppe admixture:


    Hi, sorry for the late reply. If we define steppe as Sintashta/Steppe MLBA-like ancestry than around 20% i would say and Iranians from Khorasan, Sistan and Yazd would come closest to that.

    For example i got this on Vahaduo for Zoroastrians which are from Yazd if i am not wrong and the most steppe shifted Iranians which are in the global25 spreadsheet currently. Kashkarchi are Steppe_MLBA-like people in Uzbekistan. They are almost identical to Sintashta only a bit mixed with Central Asians. I have not found the global25 coordinates of Khorasani people but i guess they are inbetween these Zoroastrians and Afghan Pashtuns. More South Asian/Iran_Neo and a bit more steppe shifted. Pashtuns are around 25-30% Sintashta-like in most estimates.


    Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
    Distance: 1.5925% / 0.01592535
    Aggregated
    54.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    17.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    14.6 UZB_Kashkarchi_BA
    8.4 Levant_Natufian
    2.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
    1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.0 Mongola

    But if we assume that steppe Iranics mixed heavily with BMAC before they entered Iran than the genetic change was much bigger. I replaced Kashkarchi with Turkmenistan_IA which was Pamiri-like and 50% Steppe_MLBA and 50% BMAC-like. So the most Steppe mixed Iranians in Khorasan are probably around 35-40% Turkmenistan_IA-like i guess.

    Target: Iranian_Zoroastrian
    Distance: 1.3016% / 0.01301572
    Aggregated
    39.2 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
    27.0 TKM_IA
    17.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    8.6 Levant_Natufian
    5.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
    1.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA_o1
    0.4 Mongola
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    Warning: they may also be not fully Iranian, I couldn't verify their origins.

    A103188
    1 balochi_hgdp + georgian_harappa + iranian_harappa + syrian_behar @ 2.299037
    M346537
    1 armenian_behar + lezgin_behar + samaritian_behar + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.715126
    A969963
    1 armenian_yunusbayev + bhatia_harappa + turk-kayseri_hodoglugil + yemenese_behar @ 2.500079
    M508781
    1 bhatia_harappa + iranian_behar + north-ossetian_harappa + palestinian_harappa @ 1.860862
    M470761
    1 bhatia_harappa + kurd_xing + kurd_xing + palestinian_hgdp @ 1.981406
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    1 balochi_hgdp + samaritian_behar + urkarah_xing + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 2.167687
    A114871
    1 balochi_hgdp + georgian_behar + kurd_yunusbayev + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 1.691357
    no shared dna
    no iran for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakha View Post
    no shared dna
    no iran for me
    I match almost every kit posted in this thread for few exceptions. I significantly match the Mountain Iranian at a significant portion on default but I no longer share results on here.

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    "distance%=1.9124"

    Iranian_Mazandarani

    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,78.2
    Steppe,18
    AASI,2.8
    MNG_Hovsgol_BA,1
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    "distance%=1.3568"

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    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C,21.2
    Steppe,20
    MNG_Hovsgol_BA,3.2
    AASI,3
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    "distance%=1.6115"

    Iranian_Zoroastrian

    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,57.8
    Steppe,24
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C,15
    AASI,2.4
    MNG_Hovsgol_BA,0.8
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    "distance%=2.9022"

    Pashtun

    Iran_Neolithic,40
    Steppe,38
    AASI,19.4
    MNG_Hovsgol_BA,2.6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    I match almost every kit posted in this thread for few exceptions. I significantly match the Mountain Iranian at a significant portion on default but I no longer share results on here.
    Interesting. You re mostly of italian and eastern/central euro origins?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slavic Italian View Post
    I match almost every kit posted in this thread for few exceptions. I significantly match the Mountain Iranian at a significant portion on default but I no longer share results on here.
    btw which calc is in your signature?
    edit: i got it, its DnaTribes, right?

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