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[Epirus DNA]

According to this Im Scythian as Fuck !

You got those Hellenic Roots !!!

The Gelonians (also known as Helonians) were known by the ancient Greek historian Herodotus to occupy northwestern Scythia. They were originally Hellenes who settled among the Budinis (perhaps a Finnic-Votic tribe ruled by the Scythians) and were bilingual in both Greek and the Scythian language. Their capital was called Gelonus or Helonus, from the Greek word for market town. Scythians revered the stag which was believed to speed the spirits of the dead on their way.

[vbnetkhio]

Yes the proportions are interesting , the west asian shows up in his mixed mode with populations from caucasus.
I guess one assumption could be that possibly ancient populations had different proportions to what exist these days.

they had high west asian(caucasian) because Caucasus is right there next to the steppe and they mixed with them.
and low west/east med because those components are mostly neolithic farmer, and neolithic farmers didn't have a big influence on Eastern Europe.

i am more interested why are some more Germanic and some more Slavic and how is that distributed. maybe that's a WHG/EHG difference.

[Daos777]

I’m closer to Scythian than I am to Kivean Rus. Being 75 Slavic I thought I’d be closer to Rus. And I keep matching all Sarmatians and Scythian kits in the 96-99 percentile.

[Moje ime]

I haven't seen this yet so I'm just guessing:

By female DNA = mtDNA
By male DNA = Y-DNA

You probably you have the same mtDNA clade as "Litvania".

It's Latvia actually and result is for Serbia, not my personal.
So that would imply most Serbian female ancestry is from there?
Greek is also closer match there than in male ancestry (12 vs 21 distance)

I'd say male ancestry is more similar with autosomal, female is more eastern according to this.

[vbnetkhio]

It's Latvia actually and result is for Serbia, not my personal.
So that would imply most Serbian female ancestry is from there?

depends how deep into subclades they go. because most europeans have different versions of mtdna H and U.

[Cumansky]

Kievan Rus is Sunghir 6, genetically close to modern Ukrainian. He not really Russian this is a misnomer

Kievan Rus (Sunghir 6 T005824) Y-DNA I2

K13

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 47
2 North_Atlantic 27.31
3 West_Med 12.79
4 East_Med 5.09
5 West_Asian 4.96
6 Siberian 1.21
7 Amerindian 1.17
8 Oceanian 0.46
9 Northeast_African 0.01
10 Red_Sea 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 3.63
2 Polish 4.33
3 Estonian_Polish 4.59
4 Russian_Smolensk 4.72
5 Southwest_Russian 4.91
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.4
7 Belorussian 5.89
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 5.93
9 South_Polish 6
10 Kargopol_Russian 8.68
11 Lithuanian 8.81
12 Estonian 9.46
13 Croatian 10.94
14 Erzya 11.04
15 Finnish 12
16 East_Finnish 12.5
17 Southwest_Finnish 12.81
18 Moldavian 13.92
19 Hungarian 15.11
20 East_German 16.04

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.8% Lithuanian + 13.2% Sardinian @ 2.33
2 76.4% Ukrainian + 23.6% Lithuanian @ 2.53
3 93.6% Estonian_Polish + 6.4% Sardinian @ 2.58
4 60.1% Ukrainian + 39.9% Estonian_Polish @ 2.64
5 93.7% Russian_Smolensk + 6.3% Sardinian @ 2.9
6 63.5% Ukrainian + 36.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.95
7 70.8% Ukrainian + 29.2% Belorussian @ 2.97
8 56% Lithuanian + 44% Croatian @ 3.01
9 82.8% Ukrainian + 17.2% Estonian @ 3.12
10 75.8% Estonian_Polish + 24.2% Croatian @ 3.14
11 62.2% Lithuanian + 37.8% Moldavian @ 3.18
12 57% Estonian_Polish + 43% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.21
13 80.7% Estonian_Polish + 19.3% Moldavian @ 3.25
14 70.5% Ukrainian + 29.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.3
15 81.4% Lithuanian + 18.6% North_Italian @ 3.31
16 91.8% Estonian_Polish + 8.2% North_Italian @ 3.33
17 65.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.3% Lithuanian @ 3.33
18 75.8% Lithuanian + 24.2% Bulgarian @ 3.34
19 82.5% Lithuanian + 17.5% Tuscan @ 3.36
20 88.4% Ukrainian + 11.6% Erzya @ 3.36

MDLP K23b

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 49.74
2 Caucasian 29.57
3 European_Early_Farmers 12.56
4 Ancestral_Altaic 3.86
5 Arctic 1.29
6 Amerindian 1.05
7 South_Indian 0.67
8 Melano_Polynesian 0.33
9 South_Central_Asian 0.33
10 African_Pygmy 0.26
11 Austronesian 0.18
12 Near_East 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_West ( ) 3.78
2 Slovak ( ) 4.73
3 Kashub ( ) 5.13
4 Sorb ( ) 5.17
5 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 5.44
6 Czech ( ) 5.65
7 Ukrainian_East ( ) 6.02
8 Belarusian-East ( ) 6.11
9 Belarusian_West ( ) 6.17
10 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 6.66
11 Russian_South ( ) 6.98
12 Ukrainian ( ) 7.3
13 Hungarian ( ) 7.44
14 Slovenian ( ) 7.47
15 Russian-West ( ) 7.51
16 Don_cossack ( ) 7.7
17 Pole ( ) 8.07
18 Croat_BH ( ) 8.07
19 Bosnian ( ) 8.17
20 Russian_North ( ) 8.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Russian-West ( ) + 46% Croat ( ) @ 3
2 64.9% Belarusian-East ( ) + 35.1% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 3.05
3 54.9% Russian-West ( ) + 45.1% Serb_BH ( ) @ 3.1
4 58.8% Russian-West ( ) + 41.2% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 3.1
5 55.6% Croat ( ) + 44.4% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.11
6 56.2% Croat ( ) + 43.8% Balt ( ) @ 3.18
7 51.4% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 48.6% Balt ( ) @ 3.2
8 54.8% Serb_BH ( ) + 45.2% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.21
9 86.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 13.5% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 3.21
10 82.6% Belarusian-East ( ) + 17.4% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 3.22
11 50.3% Russian-North-West ( ) + 49.7% Croat ( ) @ 3.22
12 93.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 6.5% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.22
13 52.5% Russian-West ( ) + 47.5% Bosnian ( ) @ 3.23
14 57.3% Bosnian ( ) + 42.7% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.24
15 62% Russian-West ( ) + 38% Montenegrian ( ) @ 3.25
16 61.9% Croat ( ) + 38.1% Estonian ( ) @ 3.25
17 55.4% Serb_BH ( ) + 44.6% Balt ( ) @ 3.26
18 74.8% Russian-West ( ) + 25.2% Kosovar ( ) @ 3.27
19 57.6% Croat_BH ( ) + 42.4% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 3.28
20 55.7% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 44.3% Latvian ( ) @ 3.28

This a early Galicia Volhynian person a predecessor of probably Poles, Ukrainians, Moldovans, Hungarians to some extent etc and very unmixed, before arrival all sorts Jews. That why is convenient call him Rus because some Russian population eventually mixed with these people down the road. He still scores a chunk of non Slavic ancestry tho

[rurov0]

Your closest Ancient populations:
Baltic + Kievan Rus (7.248)
Kievan Rus (7.61)
Avar + Kievan Rus (8.207)
Avar (11.62)
Baltic (16.73)

Has anyone gotten a closer match to Kievan Rus? I think mines the highest ive seen.

[Daos777]

Anyone closer to Scythian Ukraine than 11.41?

[Daos777]

Anyone closer to Scythian Ukraine than 11.41?



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[Moje ime]

I'm closest to Western Scythian Black Sea - distance 11.92