South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Pribislav]

Serb from Bajina Bašta and Užička Požega, surname Spasović:

K15
North_Sea 20.92
Baltic 18.04
Atlantic 16.12
Eastern_Euro 13.97
West_Med 13.22
East_Med 11.24
West_Asian 6.12
Oceanian 0.37

Serb from Kordun, surname Grmuša (he is I2a1b):
K15
North_Sea 19.29
Atlantic 18.82
Baltic 16.44
Eastern_Euro 14.67
West_Med 14.33
East_Med 9.91
West_Asian 5.5
Siberian 0.42
Oceanian 0.37
Amerindian 0.22
Northeast_African 0.03

Their K13.

Spasović
Baltic 31.86
North_Atlantic 26.63
West_Med 19.89
East_Med 11.26
West_Asian 9.94
Siberian 0.23
Red_Sea 0.19

Grmuša
Baltic 30.26
North_Atlantic 28.63
West_Med 20.39
East_Med 11. 16
West_Asian 8.74
Siberian 0.43
Red_Sea 0.39

[vbnetkhio]

Their K13.

Spasović
Baltic 31.86
North_Atlantic 26.63
West_Med 19.89
East_Med 11.26
West_Asian 9.94
Siberian 0.23
Red_Sea 0.19

Grmuša
Baltic 30.26
North_Atlantic 28.63
West_Med 20.39
East_Med 11. 16
West_Asian 8.74
Siberian 0.43
Red_Sea 0.39

here. could you please post unsorted resluts(when possible) and k36 results too.
or post result like this if it doesn't take too much time(example):

name,34.56,18.23,0,0,34.56....(with 0s included)

[Pribislav]

here. could you please post unsorted resluts(when possible) and k36 results too.
or post result like this if it doesn't take too much time(example):

name,34.56,18.23,0,0,34.56....(with 0s included)

Unfortunately I don't have their K36, only K13 and K15.

[vbnetkhio]

Unfortunately I don't have their K36, only K13 and K15.

ok, i already plotted these two, i mean for the next results you'll post.

the most convenient format for me is horizontal, with commas and zero values, like that example i posted
this is ok too, copied straight from gedmatch, like this:

Population
North_Atlantic 32.83 Pct
Baltic 25.22 Pct
West_Med 15.54 Pct
West_Asian 10.19 Pct
East_Med 12.78 Pct
Red_Sea 1.61 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Siberian 0.96 Pct
Amerindian 0.74 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

[Pribislav]

ok, i already plotted these two, i mean for the next results you'll post.

the most convenient format for me is horizontal, with commas and zero values, like that example i posted
this is ok too, copied straight from gedmatch, like this:

Population
North_Atlantic 32.83 Pct
Baltic 25.22 Pct
West_Med 15.54 Pct
West_Asian 10.19 Pct
East_Med 12.78 Pct
Red_Sea 1.61 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Siberian 0.96 Pct
Amerindian 0.74 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

I don't have much time forum since mid of September and I writte from my phone and that is different than from computer, but OK.

[Pribislav]

Interesting. To me Štokavian dialects don't have the typical Slavic intonation. Čakavian received clear Romance influence as well but it is softer and more arhaic sounding in comparison with Štokavian.
Štokavian to me often sounds harsh and very clear. Kajkavian sounds very Slavic in comparison.

This is very true.
Štokavian (cummunist umbrella for Serbian language) sounds like old Latin, only have Slavic vocabular.

[vbnetkhio]

I don't have much time forum since mid of September and I writte from my phone and that is different than from computer, but OK.

i appreciate every result.
i just said if you have unsorted results, or enough time to format them, post them like that, if not,sorted is ok too.
because i collect results in an excel table, and it's way easier to add unsorted results to it

and i plan to make all kinds of statistics from that table in the future, not only pca.

maybe something like these graphs:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-GEDMATCH-KITS

[Pribislav]

No, that is false. Population just declined. There are plenty of Krajina Serbs who are genetically more Croat than Serb like.
And it is visible in surnames.

Vrkić is typical Croatian surname and among Krajina Serbs it is from locals.

Catholic sounding and ikavian surnames exist among Krajina Serbs, like: Ivančić, Jerkan, Stipanović, Sikirica, Bilić, Ivanković, Jurašin, Bilčar, Cvitkovac, Jurković, Marinčić, Marin, Matijaš, Matas, Gambiroža, Šimić, Mišina, Josić etc. That is not conected with Croatians but with the fact that large part of Serbs were Catholics before Sveti Sava and even after him, and with the fact that in some parts of Dalmatia and W. Bosnia Serbs have ikavian reflex of yat (Livno, Duvno, Kupres, Sinj areas, and some villages around Vrlika and Drniš, and few Village near Split and Klis).

[Dušan]

Catholic sounding and ikavian surnames exist among Krajina Serbs, like: Ivančić, Jerkan, Stipanović, Sikirica, Bilić, Ivanković, Jurašin, Bilčar, Cvitkovac, Jurković, Marinčić, Marin, Matijaš, Matas, Gambiroža, Šimić, Mišina, Josić etc. That is not conected with Croatians but with the fact that large part of Serbs were Catholics before Sveti Sava and even after him, and with the fact that in some parts of Dalmatia and W. Bosnia Serbs have ikavian reflex of yat (Livno, Duvno, Kupres, Sinj areas, and some villages around Vrlika and Drniš, and few Village near Split and Klis).

Thats not more than 1% of Krajina Serb surnames. There are more surname with turkish sound (like mine), but it has nothing to do with Turks but just borrowed words for some things.

[Pribislav]

Thats not more than 1% of Krajina Serb surnames. There are more surname with turkish sound (like mine), but it has nothing to do with Turks but just borrowed words for some things.

Most of surnames up which I post exist among Dalmatian Serbs, among them there is most "Catholic" sounding/shifted surnames, but I say again that is not conected with Croatians.