South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[HungryLion]

Those two Montenegrins score very high Baltic (32-33 percent)!

I think they score more than me, but I am not sure tbh whitout cheeking. But they are close whitout doubt.

[vbnetkhio]

as i said before, the Montenegrins have a quite big east-west range.
the most western one from Plav and Cetinje has increased Atlantic and West Med(Celtic&Illyrian?) like some Croats from Dalmatia and more importantly like those ancient Delmatian/Illyrian samples. that most southeastern Montenegrin from Podgorica has less of that, and more East Med and West asian (Thracian?)

and if you draw "lines of mixing" from those Montenegrin extremes to the Belorusians, who are very probably the most similar to proto-Slavs, most Serbs end up within this "triangle".

which means that Serbs are like Montenegrins with more Slavic influence, or in other words Montenegrins are like Serbs, but for one step closer to the pre-Slavic Balkan population.



there is very little Serbian outliers plotting to the east of this line, mostly noise or some distant exotic admixtures. but there is a lot of Serbs west of the "triangle". i assumed this is a Germanic pull (red line), from many Germanic peoples which started coming to the Balkans even before Slavs.

So Serbs are mainly like Montenegrins + Slavic and Germanic influence.

and pre-Slavic Balkanians were of course even more southern than Montenegrins, they were similar to Italians and Greeks.

[vbnetkhio]

Those two Montenegrins score very high Baltic (32-33 percent)!

i just got new info, it's a mixed Serbian-Montenegrin family. those with high baltic are from Serbia, and those down south from Montenegro.

[CommonSense]

i just got new info, it's a mixed Serbian-Montenegrin family. those with high baltic are from Serbia, and those down south from Montenegro.

I posted their results here a while ago, in case somebody is wondering

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6205913

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post6205965

[vbnetkhio]

Montenegrins, Serbian Serbs, Cro & B&H Serbs

2 of those Serbian Serb outliers are academic samples and they get Montenegrins and Albanians in their matches list, and the 3rd one is a Kosovo Serb who plots far away from other Kosovo Serbs, probably has some Albanian admixture

[Dušan]

Montenegrins, Serbian Serbs, Cro & B&H Serbs

2 of those Serbian Serb outliers are academic samples and they get Montenegrins and Albanians in their matches list, and the 3rd one is a Kosovo Serb who plots far away from other Kosovo Serbs, probably has some Albanian admixture

Overlap between Serbian and western Serbs (Bosnia and Krajina) over 80%.

Or even 90%.

[vbnetkhio]

Overlap between Serbian and western Serbs (Bosnia and Krajina) over 80%.

Or even 90%.

yep. Serbs from Šumadija are very Slavic, and those from Northern Bosnia like Branimir and Ford even a bit more.

[CommonSense]

Montenegrins, Serbian Serbs, Cro & B&H Serbs

2 of those Serbian Serb outliers are academic samples and they get Montenegrins and Albanians in their matches list, and the 3rd one is a Kosovo Serb who plots far away from other Kosovo Serbs, probably has some Albanian admixture

What about his matches, are they Albanians? Some Kosovo Serbs also have recent Montenegrin ancestry, like Srđan Đoković (Novak's dad). As far as I know, many settled there after the Balkan Wars.

[vbnetkhio]

What about his matches, are they Albanians? Some Kosovo Serbs also have recent Montenegrin ancestry, like Srđan Đoković (Novak's dad). As far as I know, many settled there after the Balkan Wars.

i just have his k15 result, ph2ter sent me. he is the one plotting south of Montenegrins. yeah, he could also be a pure south Montenegrin settler i guess.

[Dušan]

Where should be average Serbian dot (red square), average Serbia's Serb dot (green square) and average western Serb dot (blue square), according to this: