Post Eurogenes K13 - Fresh thread -

**Luke35** · 11-04-2019, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

Where did I mentioned it? I've highlighted West+East because our hometown is located in pretty much geographical Central Germany.

Kyp, thought you might be interested to see my mom's, in comparison to your mom's. My mother's ancestry is mostly West Germany, there is some Bavarian further back. Also she had a fully British great-grandparent.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.35
2 Baltic 23.78
3 West_Med 13.84
4 East_Med 7.26
5 West_Asian 6.36
6 Red_Sea 1.09
7 South_Asian 1.07
8 Oceanian 0.36
9 Sub-Saharan 0.36
10 Northeast_African 0.29
11 Amerindian 0.13
12 Siberian 0.11

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 2.54
2 West_German 2.79
3 Southeast_English 5.28
4 North_German 5.49
5 Danish 6.61
6 North_Dutch 6.66
7 Orcadian 6.96
8 Southwest_English 7.31
9 Irish 7.96
10 West_Scottish 8.47
11 French 8.61
12 Norwegian 9
13 Austrian 9.01
14 Swedish 9.74
15 East_German 10.25
16 Hungarian 13.62
17 North_Swedish 14.24
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.39
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.58
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% West_German + 28.8% North_Dutch @ 0.84
2 71.1% West_German + 28.9% Danish @ 0.86
3 78% North_German + 22% Spanish_Valencia @ 0.92
4 61.3% North_German + 38.7% French @ 0.95
5 75.2% North_German + 24.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 0.95
6 77.4% West_German + 22.6% Norwegian @ 1.01
7 77% Danish + 23% North_Italian @ 1.02
8 76.6% North_German + 23.4% Portuguese @ 1.03
9 78% North_German + 22% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.05
10 70% South_Dutch + 30% North_German @ 1.07
11 79.8% North_German + 20.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.07
12 80.2% North_Dutch + 19.8% Tuscan @ 1.1
13 80.3% Danish + 19.7% Tuscan @ 1.11
14 78.4% North_German + 21.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.14
15 83.3% North_Dutch + 16.7% West_Sicilian @ 1.22
16 77.8% Southeast_English + 22.2% Serbian @ 1.24
17 68.1% West_German + 31.9% North_German @ 1.24
18 73.3% West_German + 26.7% Orcadian @ 1.26
19 76.7% North_German + 23.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.26
20 74.9% Norwegian + 25.1% Tuscan @ 1.26

**Kyp** · 11-04-2019, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.G

Kyp, thought you might be interested to see my mom's, in comparison to your mom's. My mother's ancestry is mostly West Germany, there is some Bavarian further back. Also she had a fully British great-grandparent.

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.35
2 Baltic 23.78
3 West_Med 13.84
4 East_Med 7.26
5 West_Asian 6.36
6 Red_Sea 1.09
7 South_Asian 1.07
8 Oceanian 0.36
9 Sub-Saharan 0.36
10 Northeast_African 0.29
11 Amerindian 0.13
12 Siberian 0.11

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 2.54
2 West_German 2.79
3 Southeast_English 5.28
4 North_German 5.49
5 Danish 6.61
6 North_Dutch 6.66
7 Orcadian 6.96
8 Southwest_English 7.31
9 Irish 7.96
10 West_Scottish 8.47
11 French 8.61
12 Norwegian 9
13 Austrian 9.01
14 Swedish 9.74
15 East_German 10.25
16 Hungarian 13.62
17 North_Swedish 14.24
18 Spanish_Cataluna 16.39
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.58
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.2% West_German + 28.8% North_Dutch @ 0.84
2 71.1% West_German + 28.9% Danish @ 0.86
3 78% North_German + 22% Spanish_Valencia @ 0.92
4 61.3% North_German + 38.7% French @ 0.95
5 75.2% North_German + 24.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 0.95
6 77.4% West_German + 22.6% Norwegian @ 1.01
7 77% Danish + 23% North_Italian @ 1.02
8 76.6% North_German + 23.4% Portuguese @ 1.03
9 78% North_German + 22% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.05
10 70% South_Dutch + 30% North_German @ 1.07
11 79.8% North_German + 20.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.07
12 80.2% North_Dutch + 19.8% Tuscan @ 1.1
13 80.3% Danish + 19.7% Tuscan @ 1.11
14 78.4% North_German + 21.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.14
15 83.3% North_Dutch + 16.7% West_Sicilian @ 1.22
16 77.8% Southeast_English + 22.2% Serbian @ 1.24
17 68.1% West_German + 31.9% North_German @ 1.24
18 73.3% West_German + 26.7% Orcadian @ 1.26
19 76.7% North_German + 23.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.26
20 74.9% Norwegian + 25.1% Tuscan @ 1.26

They are pretty similar, except for the swopped North_Atlantic & Baltic components, making my mother plot closer towards Austrians/Hungarians & East Germans in comparison. But it changes on K15 when the eastern components are split. Your mum is a bit more NW-Euro it seems. (Makes sense considering her ancestry.)

If you have time it would be nice if you could send me your mother's k15 Single Populations.

**Luke35** · 11-04-2019, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

They are pretty similar, except for the swopped North_Atlantic & Baltic components, making my mother plot closer towards Austrians/Hungarians & East Germans in comparison. But it changes on K15 when the eastern components are split. Your mum is a bit more NW-Euro it seems. (Makes sense considering her ancestry.)

If you have time it would be nice if you could send me your mother's k15 Single Populations.

On the K36 plot, I noticed my mother was quite a bit South and West of your's. On K15, she plots on the word Belgian, I think right on the "e" but I have to go back and check. I'll send you her K15 and plot point when I can get on my laptop tonight.

**Kyp** · 11-04-2019, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.G

On the K36 plot, I noticed my mother was quite a bit South and West of your's. On K15, she plots on the word Belgian, I think right on the "e" but I have to go back and check. I'll send you her K15 and plot point when I can get on my laptop tonight.

Looks to me she just plots more western on K36. Must be a higher North-Atlantic score.
Okay thank you!

**altaic** · 11-04-2019, 08:30 PM

My Result:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 32.8
2 East_Med 31.11
3 West_Med 9.99
4 Baltic 8.93
5 South_Asian 5.38
6 Red_Sea 4.85
7 North_Atlantic 3.43
8 Siberian 1.44
9 Amerindian 1.2
10 East_Asian 0.57
11 Sub-Saharan 0.18
12 Oceanian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Azeri 6.51
2 Turkish 6.96
3 Georgian_Jewish 8.92
4 Kurdish 9.24
5 Iranian 9.99
6 Armenian 10.17
7 Assyrian 10.5
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.18
9 Kurdish_Jewish 13.7
10 Kumyk 14.91
11 Lebanese_Muslim 15.23
12 Syrian 16.59
13 Turkmen 17.78
14 Adygei 18.24
15 Cyprian 18.24
16 Georgian 19.06
17 Balkar 19.36
18 Lebanese_Druze 20.13
19 Kabardin 20.15
20 Abhkasian 20.74

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Georgian_Jewish + 16.2% Tatar @ 3.42
2 86.6% Georgian_Jewish + 13.4% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.45
3 86.4% Georgian_Jewish + 13.6% Erzya @ 3.5
4 86.1% Georgian_Jewish + 13.9% Chuvash @ 3.66
5 87.7% Georgian_Jewish + 12.3% East_Finnish @ 3.74
6 59.3% Kumyk + 40.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.79
7 84.7% Armenian + 15.3% Erzya @ 3.84
8 86% Georgian_Jewish + 14% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.88
9 87.9% Georgian_Jewish + 12.1% Estonian @ 3.89
10 86.2% Georgian_Jewish + 13.8% Southwest_Russian @ 3.9
11 84.2% Armenian + 15.8% Chuvash @ 3.9
12 87.8% Georgian_Jewish + 12.2% Finnish @ 3.91
13 87% Georgian_Jewish + 13% Mari @ 3.95
14 87.9% Georgian_Jewish + 12.1% Lithuanian @ 3.96
15 86% Georgian_Jewish + 14% Ukrainian @ 4
16 87% Georgian_Jewish + 13% Estonian_Polish @ 4.02
17 86.9% Georgian_Jewish + 13.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.03
18 57.9% Kumyk + 42.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.07
19 85.7% Georgian_Jewish + 14.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.07
20 87.2% Georgian_Jewish + 12.8% Belorussian @ 4.11

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My mom from Eastern Turkey:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 32.82
2 East_Med 30.48
3 West_Med 12.63
4 North_Atlantic 6
5 South_Asian 5.7
6 Baltic 4.85
7 Red_Sea 4.41
8 Amerindian 1.95
9 Siberian 0.91
10 Sub-Saharan 0.14
11 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 5.21
2 Azeri 6.93
3 Armenian 8.47
4 Georgian_Jewish 9.18
5 Kurdish 9.52
6 Assyrian 10.17
7 Iranian 11.16
8 Iranian_Jewish 13.22
9 Kurdish_Jewish 13.49
10 Lebanese_Muslim 14.2
11 Syrian 15.79
12 Kumyk 16.09
13 Cyprian 16.82
14 Turkmen 18.42
15 Georgian 18.9
16 Adygei 19.1
17 Balkar 19.88
18 Lebanese_Druze 19.89
19 Central_Greek 20.71
20 Abhkasian 20.73

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Pretty similar overall...

**nittionia** · 11-04-2019, 08:35 PM

I'm only using my Ancestry data now.. I suppose it is similar to my g25 results?

My dad's seems similar to his g25 results as well:

**Leto** · 11-04-2019, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp Snow

I still would like to have Czech Rep as a reference in these calculators though...

A custom oracle by Lemgrant has a Czech reference.

**Impaler** · 11-04-2019, 10:06 PM

My Eurogenes K13 Oracle from DNA Genics:

Mixed Mode:
1 60,74% East_German + 39,26% Iranian_Jew @ 6,275
2 63,09% Austrian + 36,91% Iranian_Jew @ 6,440
3 57,23% East_German + 42,77% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6,553
4 60,35% East_German + 39,65% Lebanese_Druze @ 6,695
5 59,57% Austrian + 40,43% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6,852
6 52,15% Cypriot + 47,85% North_Swedish @ 6,855
7 61,52% East_German + 38,48% Kurdish_Jew @ 6,863
8 63,87% Austrian + 36,13% Kurdish_Jew @ 7,050
9 62,70% Austrian + 37,30% Lebanese_Druze @ 7,053
10 57,23% East_German + 42,77% Syrian @ 7,061
11 50,20% North_Swedish + 49,80% Cypriot @ 7,069
12 62,70% Hungarian + 37,30% Lebanese_Muslim @ 7,074
13 51,37% Lebanese_Muslim + 48,63% North_Swedish @ 7,160
14 59,96% Austrian + 40,04% Syrian @ 7,204
15 66,21% Hungarian + 33,79% Iranian_Jew @ 7,206
16 50,20% North_Swedish + 49,80% Lebanese_Muslim @ 7,262
17 60,35% East_German + 39,65% Assyrian @ 7,297
18 63,09% Austrian + 36,91% Assyrian @ 7,379
19 62,70% Hungarian + 37,30% Syrian @ 7,398
20 80,66% Romanian + 19,34% Turkmen @ 7,411
21 61,52% East_German + 38,48% Lebanese_Christian @ 7,417
22 75,59% Italian_Abruzzo + 24,41% East_Finnish @ 7,465
23 74,02% Italian_Abruzzo + 25,98% Kargopol_Russian @ 7,483
24 76,76% Serbian + 23,24% Iranian_Jew @ 7,525
25 56,45% East_German + 43,55% Cypriot @ 7,525
26 52,15% Cypriot + 47,85% Swedish @ 7,555
27 65,82% Hungarian + 34,18% Lebanese_Druze @ 7,582
28 66,60% Hungarian + 33,40% Kurdish_Jew @ 7,608
29 64,26% Austrian + 35,74% Lebanese_Christian @ 7,633
30 75,20% Italian_Abruzzo + 24,80% Finnish @ 7,658
31 61,91% Hungarian + 38,09% Cypriot @ 7,692
32 50,20% Swedish + 49,80% Cypriot @ 7,696
33 61,91% West_German + 38,09% Iranian_Jew @ 7,710
34 59,18% Austrian + 40,82% Cypriot @ 7,722
35 51,37% Lebanese_Muslim + 48,63% Swedish @ 7,739
36 81,45% Romanian + 18,55% Azeri @ 7,751
37 83,79% Romanian + 16,21% Iranian @ 7,753
38 74,80% Italian_Abruzzo + 25,20% Erzya @ 7,776
39 67,38% South_Italian + 32,62% Finnish @ 7,787
40 50,20% Swedish + 49,80% Lebanese_Muslim @ 7,797

Least-squares method.

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Bulgarian @ 10,669
2 100% Romanian @ 10,673
3 100% Greek_Thessaly @ 11,447
4 100% Serbian @ 14,007
5 100% Italian_Abruzzo @ 15,262
6 100% Tuscan @ 16,037
7 100% Central_Greek @ 17,167
8 100% West_Sicilian @ 17,413
9 100% East_Sicilian @ 18,097
10 100% North_Italian @ 18,155
New populations: 52

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Hungarian + 50% South_Italian @ 8,006
2 50% Cypriot + 50% North_German @ 8,008
3 50% Hungarian + 50% Sephardic_Jew @ 8,235
4 50% Ashkenazi + 50% Hungarian @ 8,255
5 50% East_Sicilian + 50% Hungarian @ 8,307
6 50% Cypriot + 50% East_German @ 8,388
7 50% East_German + 50% Turkish @ 8,410
8 50% Italian_Abruzzo + 50% Serbian @ 8,476
9 50% Central_Greek + 50% Hungarian @ 8,564
10 50% Sephardic_Jew + 50% South_Polish @ 8,579

Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Azeri + 33% Hungarian + 33% North_Italian @ 6,577
2 33% Hungarian + 33% Turkmen + 33% Tuscan @ 6,659
3 33% Azeri + 33% East_German + 33% Tuscan @ 6,761
4 33% East_German + 33% Turkmen + 33% Tuscan @ 6,788
5 33% Azeri + 33% Croatian + 33% Spanish_Valencia @ 6,825
6 33% Azeri + 33% North_Italian + 33% South_Polish @ 6,833
7 33% East_German + 33% Turkmen + 33% West_Sicilian @ 6,846
8 33% Azeri + 33% South_Polish + 33% Tuscan @ 6,916
9 33% Ashkenazi + 33% East_German + 33% Turkmen @ 6,918
10 33% Azeri + 33% Croatian + 33% Spanish_Murcia @ 6,933

Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Ashkenazi + 25% South_Polish + 25% Spanish_Valencia + 25% Turkmen @ 4,776
2 25% Ashkenazi + 25% South_Polish + 25% Spanish_Cataluna + 25% Turkmen @ 4,919
3 25% Ashkenazi + 25% Portuguese + 25% South_Polish + 25% Turkmen @ 4,963
4 25% French + 25% Italian_Jew + 25% South_Polish + 25% Turkmen @ 4,990
5 25% Ashkenazi + 25% South_Polish + 25% Spanish_Murcia + 25% Turkmen @ 4,999
6 25% Ashkenazi + 25% Croatian + 25% French + 25% Turkmen @ 5,012
7 25% Algerian_Jew + 25% French + 25% South_Polish + 25% Turkmen @ 5,036
8 25% Ashkenazi + 25% Serbian + 25% Turkmen + 25% West_German @ 5,053
9 25% Ashkenazi + 25% Polish + 25% Spanish_Valencia + 25% Turkmen @ 5,061
10 25% Ashkenazi + 25% French + 25% Hungarian + 25% Turkmen @ 5,068

**andre** · 11-04-2019, 10:16 PM

Baltic 29.03
2 North_Atlantic 23.25
3 East_Med 19.72
4 West_Med 14.33
5 West_Asian 7.95
6 Red_Sea 3.52
7 Siberian 1.4
8 Oceanian 0.37
9 East_Asian 0.22
10 Sub-Saharan 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.53
2 Romanian 6.03
3 Bulgarian 6.85
4 Moldavian 9.41
5 Croatian 11.61
6 Hungarian 11.96
7 Greek_Thessaly 14.5
8 Austrian 15.8
9 East_German 17.26
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.42
11 South_Polish 18.07
12 Ukrainian 18.54
13 Tuscan 19.7
14 North_Italian 19.82
15 West_German 20.8
16 Southwest_Russian 20.92
17 Italian_Abruzzo 20.97
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.38
19 Central_Greek 21.38
20 Polish 21.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.8% Belorussian + 44.2% Italian_Jewish @ 1.76
2 56.3% Estonian_Polish + 43.7% Italian_Jewish @ 1.85
3 56.6% Russian_Smolensk + 43.4% Italian_Jewish @ 1.88
4 51.4% Polish + 48.6% Ashkenazi @ 2.01
5 55.7% South_Polish + 44.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.01
6 51.3% Lithuanian + 48.7% Italian_Jewish @ 2.02
7 51.2% Ashkenazi + 48.8% Belorussian @ 2.09
8 56% Belorussian + 44% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.12
9 59% Southwest_Russian + 41% Italian_Jewish @ 2.12
10 56.4% Estonian_Polish + 43.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.13
11 50.4% Ashkenazi + 49.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.15
12 55.1% Ukrainian + 44.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.22
13 50.7% Ashkenazi + 49.3% Estonian_Polish @ 2.3
14 55.4% Ashkenazi + 44.6% Estonian @ 2.35
15 51.9% Belorussian + 48.1% South_Italian @ 2.35
16 51.4% Lithuanian + 48.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.37
17 51.6% East_Sicilian + 48.4% Belorussian @ 2.44
18 55.9% Belorussian + 44.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.45
19 56.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.5
20 62% Ukrainian + 38% Italian_Jewish @ 2.53

**Adamg** · 11-05-2019, 12:31 PM

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 36.47
2 Baltic 35.87
3 West_Med 13.29
4 East_Med 9.59
5 West_Asian 2.4
6 South_Asian 0.99
7 East_Asian 0.43
8 Oceanian 0.42
9 Northeast_African 0.4
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
11 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 5.66
2 Hungarian 6.97
3 Austrian 7.16
4 South_Polish 9.02
5 Croatian 9.56
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.3
7 Ukrainian 11.37
8 North_Swedish 11.85
9 Polish 11.87
10 Southwest_Finnish 12.6
11 Moldavian 12.7
12 North_German 13.73
13 West_German 13.91
14 Serbian 14.06
15 Swedish 14.06
16 South_Dutch 14.73
17 Belorussian 15.13
18 Russian_Smolensk 15.17
19 Southwest_Russian 15.29
20 Estonian_Polish 15.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.2% Belorussian + 37.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.45
2 55.1% Belorussian + 44.9% French @ 3.57
3 64.2% Belorussian + 35.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.63
4 66.6% Belorussian + 33.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.78
5 63.3% Belorussian + 36.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.96
6 64.6% Belorussian + 35.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.96
7 55.8% Lithuanian + 44.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.03
8 54.8% Estonian_Polish + 45.2% French @ 4.05
9 51.6% French + 48.4% Lithuanian @ 4.11
10 65.4% Belorussian + 34.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.17
11 57.9% Lithuanian + 42.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.17
12 52.3% West_German + 47.7% Belorussian @ 4.22
13 52.6% West_German + 47.4% Estonian_Polish @ 4.27
14 61.5% Estonian + 38.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.29
15 64.3% Belorussian + 35.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.31
16 58.3% Lithuanian + 41.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.33
17 62.8% Belorussian + 37.2% Portuguese @ 4.35
18 50.7% South_Dutch + 49.3% Belorussian @ 4.35
19 80.1% East_German + 19.9% Belorussian @ 4.36
20 59.5% Estonian + 40.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.4