South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[CommonSense]

I found a person among my matches. Apparently they're from Livno, Bosnia. Quite an extensive genealogy, with dozens of surnames, registered under the email livnogen@gmail.com. I looked it up and found a person on several sites advertising genealogy for Croats from that area. Anyhow, they have several kits registered on gedmatch, who all seem to be family/closely related. Here they all are:

Kit T151091

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.33
2 North_Sea 17.8
3 Eastern_Euro 14.44
4 Atlantic 14.2
5 West_Med 13.63
6 West_Asian 10.23
7 East_Med 7.37
8 Amerindian 0.73
9 South_Asian 0.62
10 Southeast_Asian 0.33
11 Sub-Saharan 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.63
2 Croatian 5.9
3 Serbian 7.69
4 Hungarian 8.21
5 Romanian 8.57
6 Austrian 10.08
7 Bulgarian 10.66
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.04
9 South_Polish 11.67
10 Ukrainian 11.73
11 East_German 12.11
12 Polish 14.5
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.75
14 Russian_Smolensk 14.97
15 Southwest_Russian 15.46
16 Estonian_Polish 17.22
17 Belorussian 17.37
18 Greek_Thessaly 18
19 Kargopol_Russian 18.18
20 Southwest_Finnish 18.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.3% Moldavian + 5.7% Sardinian @ 2.7
2 91.1% Moldavian + 8.9% North_Italian @ 3.07
3 92.9% Moldavian + 7.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.11
4 93.2% Moldavian + 6.8% Southwest_French @ 3.17
5 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.18
6 93.6% Moldavian + 6.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.19
7 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.19
8 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Tuscan @ 3.19
9 85.6% Moldavian + 14.4% Bulgarian @ 3.2
10 95.3% Moldavian + 4.7% French_Basque @ 3.21
11 94.1% Moldavian + 5.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.21
12 91.9% Moldavian + 8.1% Greek @ 3.23
13 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.25
14 83.4% Moldavian + 16.6% Romanian @ 3.27
15 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.28
16 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Portuguese @ 3.28
17 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.29
18 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.29
19 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.32
20 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.32

Kit T491133

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 19.77
2 North_Sea 17.26
3 Baltic 16.97
4 Eastern_Euro 13.42
5 West_Med 12.14
6 West_Asian 9.02
7 East_Med 8.45
8 Red_Sea 2.29
9 Southeast_Asian 0.43
10 Northeast_African 0.19
11 Sub-Saharan 0.03
12 Amerindian 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.44
2 Austrian 5.95
3 Croatian 6.71
4 Romanian 6.96
5 Moldavian 7.19
6 Hungarian 7.91
7 Bulgarian 9.44
8 East_German 10.27
9 South_Polish 13.24
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.62
11 Ukrainian 14.32
12 South_Dutch 15.04
13 French 15.42
14 Polish 15.5
15 Russian_Smolensk 16.24
16 North_Italian 16.4
17 West_German 16.67
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.89
19 Greek_Thessaly 17.25
20 Southwest_Russian 17.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.8% North_Italian + 49.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.63
2 55% Austrian + 45% Romanian @ 2.95
3 63.5% Austrian + 36.5% Bulgarian @ 2.99
4 75.1% Croatian + 24.9% Tuscan @ 3.06
5 73% Croatian + 27% North_Italian @ 3.1
6 76% Moldavian + 24% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.14
7 51.5% North_Italian + 48.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.17
8 52.4% Bulgarian + 47.6% East_German @ 3.18
9 62% Serbian + 38% Austrian @ 3.21
10 65.8% Serbian + 34.2% Croatian @ 3.23
11 75.3% Moldavian + 24.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.24
12 77.5% Moldavian + 22.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.27
13 75.7% Moldavian + 24.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.3
14 82.3% Moldavian + 17.7% French_Basque @ 3.35
15 78.3% Croatian + 21.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.4
16 54.3% Polish + 45.7% Tuscan @ 3.48
17 58.4% South_Polish + 41.6% Tuscan @ 3.52
18 78.2% Austrian + 21.8% Greek @ 3.52
19 85.5% Serbian + 14.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.53
20 61.7% Romanian + 38.3% East_German @ 3.56


Kit T866374

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 20.72
2 North_Sea 19.48
3 West_Med 13.77
4 Eastern_Euro 13.75
5 Atlantic 11.26
6 East_Med 10.27
7 West_Asian 8.97
8 Southeast_Asian 0.74
9 Amerindian 0.61
10 Northeast_African 0.39
11 Sub-Saharan 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.76
2 Croatian 7.9
3 Serbian 8.03
4 Hungarian 8.64
5 Romanian 8.65
6 Bulgarian 10.6
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.57
8 Austrian 12
9 Ukrainian 12.32
10 South_Polish 12.87
11 East_German 13.57
12 Polish 15.78
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.95
14 Russian_Smolensk 16.46
15 Southwest_Russian 16.55
16 Greek_Thessaly 16.62
17 Belorussian 18.43
18 Estonian_Polish 18.5
19 Greek 18.53
20 West_German 19.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.62
2 84.6% Moldavian + 15.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.73
3 90.3% Moldavian + 9.7% Central_Greek @ 4.06
4 91.5% Moldavian + 8.5% South_Italian @ 4.06
5 94.2% Moldavian + 5.8% Sardinian @ 4.07
6 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.1
7 88.3% Moldavian + 11.7% Greek @ 4.11
8 91% Moldavian + 9% East_Sicilian @ 4.13
9 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Italian_Jewish @ 4.14
10 59.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 40.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.14
11 94% Moldavian + 6% Cyprian @ 4.15
12 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.17
13 91.2% Moldavian + 8.8% Ashkenazi @ 4.23
14 81.8% Moldavian + 18.2% Bulgarian @ 4.24
15 95.3% Moldavian + 4.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.24
16 90.6% Moldavian + 9.4% Tuscan @ 4.25
17 95.2% Moldavian + 4.8% Samaritan @ 4.25
18 66.6% Ukrainian + 33.4% Central_Greek @ 4.25
19 91.5% Moldavian + 8.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.27
20 95.4% Moldavian + 4.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.28

Kit UK2796447

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 19.54
2 North_Sea 18.89
3 Baltic 17.64
4 West_Med 11.61
5 Eastern_Euro 10.89
6 East_Med 10.64
7 West_Asian 8.92
8 Red_Sea 1.28
9 Amerindian 0.58

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.88
2 Romanian 5.81
3 Austrian 6.09
4 Hungarian 7.1
5 Croatian 7.49
6 Moldavian 7.76
7 Bulgarian 8.53
8 East_German 10.35
9 South_Polish 13.84
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.95
11 South_Dutch 14.5
12 French 14.74
13 Ukrainian 14.85
14 West_German 15.5
15 North_Italian 15.62
16 Greek_Thessaly 15.96
17 Polish 16.28
18 Greek 16.71
19 North_German 16.99
20 Russian_Smolensk 17.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Bulgarian + 45.1% East_German @ 1.42
2 51.2% Romanian + 48.8% Austrian @ 1.59
3 59% Austrian + 41% Bulgarian @ 1.91
4 65% Romanian + 35% East_German @ 1.98
5 73.4% Austrian + 26.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.02
6 55.6% South_Polish + 44.4% Tuscan @ 2.51
7 62.2% East_German + 37.8% Greek @ 2.55
8 79.8% Austrian + 20.2% Central_Greek @ 2.63
9 75.1% Austrian + 24.9% Greek @ 2.64
10 67.5% Bulgarian + 32.5% North_German @ 2.73
11 55.2% Hungarian + 44.8% Bulgarian @ 2.74
12 68.4% Bulgarian + 31.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.75
13 71% Croatian + 29% Tuscan @ 2.8
14 77.5% Romanian + 22.5% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.8
15 66.9% Serbian + 33.1% Austrian @ 2.81
16 56.2% Romanian + 43.8% Hungarian @ 2.83
17 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% North_German @ 2.84
18 71.5% Bulgarian + 28.5% North_Swedish @ 2.86
19 82.3% Austrian + 17.7% South_Italian @ 2.88
20 72.2% Bulgarian + 27.8% Swedish @ 2.9

Kit YC3921578

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 19.95
2 Baltic 18.1
3 Eastern_Euro 14.32
4 Atlantic 13.92
5 West_Med 11.8
6 West_Asian 9.94
7 East_Med 8.74
8 Red_Sea 3.04
9 Oceanian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.14
2 Serbian 5.28
3 Croatian 6.79
4 Hungarian 6.94
5 Romanian 7.4
6 Austrian 9.28
7 Bulgarian 10.31
8 East_German 11.17
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.54
10 South_Polish 12.29
11 Ukrainian 12.47
12 Polish 15.08
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.67
14 Russian_Smolensk 15.97
15 Southwest_Russian 16.31
16 Greek_Thessaly 16.87
17 West_German 16.99
18 South_Dutch 17.2
19 Southwest_Finnish 17.53
20 French 17.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.7% Moldavian + 41.3% Serbian @ 2.56
2 87.2% Moldavian + 12.8% Tuscan @ 2.93
3 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.96
4 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% North_Italian @ 3.05
5 70.8% Moldavian + 29.2% Romanian @ 3.08
6 89.9% Moldavian + 10.1% East_Sicilian @ 3.16
7 89.6% Moldavian + 10.4% Central_Greek @ 3.18
8 90.1% Moldavian + 9.9% West_Sicilian @ 3.19
9 86.9% Moldavian + 13.1% French @ 3.19
10 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.21
11 86.4% Moldavian + 13.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.22
12 92.1% Moldavian + 7.9% Italian_Jewish @ 3.23
13 89.5% Moldavian + 10.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.23
14 89.6% Moldavian + 10.4% Ashkenazi @ 3.24
15 89.1% Moldavian + 10.9% Portuguese @ 3.26
16 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% South_Italian @ 3.26
17 92.5% Moldavian + 7.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.29
18 90.3% Moldavian + 9.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.34
19 93.5% Moldavian + 6.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.35
20 93% Moldavian + 7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.39

[WeirdLookingFellow]

I found a person among my matches. Apparently they're from Livno, Bosnia. Quite an extensive genealogy, with dozens of surnames, registered under the email livnogen@gmail.com. I looked it up and found a person on several sites advertising genealogy for Croats from that area. Anyhow, they have several kits registered on gedmatch, who all seem to be family/closely related. Here they all are:

What the hell is it with you Serbs/Bosniaks or bordering with Croats that you range from 23 to 29 Atlantic and 25 to 33 Baltic on K13. The added high East Med and West Asian make these samples you posted like a sort of Bulgarian that's a quarter German-Russian. It's extremely strange to me.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

I found a person among my matches. Apparently they're from Livno, Bosnia. Quite an extensive genealogy, with dozens of surnames, registered under the email livnogen@gmail.com. I looked it up and found a person on several sites advertising genealogy for Croats from that area. Anyhow, they have several kits registered on gedmatch, who all seem to be family/closely related. Here they all are:

What the hell is it with you Serbs/Bosniaks or bordering with Croats that you range from 23 to 29 Atlantic and 25 to 33 Baltic on K13. The added high East Med and West Asian make these samples you posted like a sort of Bulgarian that's a quarter German-Russian. It's extremely strange to me.

[CommonSense]

What the hell is it with you Serbs/Bosniaks or bordering with Croats that you range from 23 to 29 Atlantic and 25 to 33 Baltic on K13. The added high East Med and West Asian make these samples you posted like a sort of Bulgarian that's a quarter German-Russian. It's extremely strange to me.

It is a matter of perspective. To us, seeing you plot with northeast Italians is just as strange, if not even more so

[Luke35]

It is a matter of perspective. To us, seeing you plot with northeast Italians is just as strange, if not even more so

No, no, no, not strange. Weird.

[CommonSense]

Serb. From Jasikovac, Lika:

Kit KT5929071

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 22.63
2 Atlantic 16.03
3 West_Med 13.67
4 East_Med 12.39
5 Eastern_Euro 12.05
6 North_Sea 11.36
7 West_Asian 7.76
8 Red_Sea 2.75
9 Southeast_Asian 0.85
10 Oceanian 0.29
11 South_Asian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 7.82
2 Romanian 8.04
3 Moldavian 8.87
4 Croatian 9.25
5 Serbian 9.44
6 Austrian 12.54
7 Hungarian 12.84
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.88
9 Greek 15.22
10 South_Polish 15.32
11 Greek_Thessaly 15.68
12 Ukrainian 15.77
13 Russian_Smolensk 16.92
14 East_German 17.11
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.27
16 Polish 17.63
17 Southwest_Russian 17.93
18 North_Italian 19.04
19 Estonian_Polish 19.09
20 Belorussian 19.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Greek + 40.2% Lithuanian @ 3.64
2 55.9% Greek + 44.1% Estonian_Polish @ 3.8
3 56.1% Greek + 43.9% Belorussian @ 3.99
4 52.8% Greek + 47.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.04
5 77% Bulgarian + 23% Lithuanian @ 4.31
6 74.1% Bulgarian + 25.9% Estonian_Polish @ 4.34
7 74.5% Bulgarian + 25.5% Belorussian @ 4.51
8 72% Bulgarian + 28% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.59
9 56.6% Estonian_Polish + 43.4% South_Italian @ 4.59
10 53.4% Greek + 46.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.73
11 54.5% Greek + 45.5% Southwest_Russian @ 4.76
12 54% Greek + 46% Polish @ 4.87
13 59.8% Russian_Smolensk + 40.2% South_Italian @ 4.89
14 73.9% Bulgarian + 26.1% Southwest_Russian @ 4.91
15 53% Estonian_Polish + 47% Central_Greek @ 4.91
16 73.2% Bulgarian + 26.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.93
17 52.6% Lithuanian + 47.4% South_Italian @ 4.95
18 50.2% Greek + 49.8% South_Polish @ 4.97
19 64.9% Croatian + 35.1% Greek @ 4.97
20 50.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.4% Greek @ 5.03

[vbnetkhio]

i plotted them, another Croat from Livno i have (but in fact all his origins are from the Dalmatian hinterland and west Herzegovina), a Serb from Duvno and a Duvno+Brcko Croat (Ljubic's father)

[WeirdLookingFellow]

It is a matter of perspective. To us, seeing you plot with northeast Italians is just as strange, if not even more so

I plot as a slightly more western Montenegrin, there is still a visible barrier between Balkans amd NE Italians, tho I am slightly weird as Mr G said hehe.

[CommonSense]

i plotted them, another Croat from Livno i have (but in fact all his origins are from the Dalmatian hinterland and west Herzegovina), a Serb from Duvno and a Duvno+Brcko Croat (Ljubic's father)

Four dots? I posted five kits. That other Livno Croat is Max Soldo, I presume. He is also J2b2, like these people.

[vbnetkhio]

Four dots? I posted five kits. That other Livno Croat is Max Soldo, I presume. He is also J2b2, like these people.

yep, it's him. and it seems i missed one, i'll fix that