South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[vbnetkhio]

Vrlika one is half Serb half Bunjevac. Vrlika Serbs are heavy mixed with Bunjevci for centuries.

his k13 is pretty similar to that full Bunjevac.
what's the history of that area? the local Croats are Bunjevci from West Herzegovina and Serbs originate from Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia, i suppose?

[Pribislav]

his k13 is pretty similar to that full Bunjevac.
what's the history of that area? the local Croats are Bunjevci from West Herzegovina and Serbs originate from Herzegovina, Montenegro and Serbia, i suppose?

Yes, so called Croatians from Vrlika are Bunjevci.
Vrlika Bunjevci originated from W. Herzegovina, Livno, Duvno, Rama, and Serbs from Duvno and Herzegovina (all 3 ones western, eastern and old).
For example Serbian family Bodrožić from Vrlika area originated probably fom Trebinje area, and Serbian families Barišić, Milaš/Miloš and Četnik originated from Duvno, and Serbian families Marčetić and Cvitkovac originated probably from western Herzegovina (southeast of Duvno).

[Dušan]

Full Bunjevac from Lič in Gorski Kotar also got no 1 Serbian. He has lower Baltic + NA than this half Bunjevac from Vrlika.

Bunjevci have nothing in common with original čakavian Croats, or with kaykavian ones who are Slovenes in denial, except Roman Catholic religion.

[Pribislav]

Bunjevci have nothing in common with original čakavian Croats, or with kaykavian ones who are Slovenes in denial, except Roman Catholic religion.

Yes, even Feiichy admited that full Bunjevci are Serb alike autosomally.

[Leto]

People from Lwow/Lviv oblast, Ukraine. I don't know how Slavic they are but they were all born there

K13

Father
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	Baltic 	31.46
2 	North_Atlantic 	25.46
3 	East_Med 	14.48
4 	West_Med 	13.98
5 	West_Asian 	9.22
6 	Siberian 	1.77
7 	Red_Sea 	1.7
8 	East_Asian 	0.83
9 	Northeast_African 	0.6
10 	Amerindian 	0.37
11 	South_Asian 	0.08

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Moldavian 	4.49
2 	Serbian 	4.65
3 	Croatian 	6.55
4 	Hungarian 	7.42
5 	Romanian 	7.83
6 	Bulgarian 	9.86
7 	Austrian 	11.9
8 	Ukrainian_Lviv 	12.58
9 	East_German 	12.91
10 	South_Polish 	13.17
11 	Ukrainian 	13.75
12 	Southwest_Russian 	16.68
13 	Polish 	16.79
14 	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	16.99
15 	West_German 	18.26
16 	Greek_Thessaly 	18.63
17 	Russian_Smolensk 	18.69
18 	Estonian_Polish 	19.15
19 	Belorussian 	19.64
20 	South_Dutch 	19.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	70.3%	Bulgarian 	+ 	29.7%	Finnish 	@ 	1.08
2	  	71.8%	Romanian 	+ 	28.2%	Belorussian 	@ 	1.39
3	  	83.2%	Serbian 	+ 	16.8%	Erzya 	@ 	1.42
4	  	70.7%	Bulgarian 	+ 	29.3%	Estonian 	@ 	1.42
5	  	68.4%	Romanian 	+ 	31.6%	Southwest_Russian 	@ 	1.45
6	  	71.3%	Romanian 	+ 	28.7%	Estonian_Polish 	@ 	1.52
7	  	76%	Romanian 	+ 	24%	Lithuanian 	@ 	1.64
8	  	52%	Estonian 	+ 	48%	Central_Greek 	@ 	1.65
9	  	70.9%	Romanian 	+ 	29.1%	Russian_Smolensk 	@ 	1.72
10	  	75.5%	Romanian 	+ 	24.5%	Estonian 	@ 	1.74
11	  	71.5%	Bulgarian 	+ 	28.5%	East_Finnish 	@ 	1.75
12	  	66.1%	South_Polish 	+ 	33.9%	Central_Greek 	@ 	1.79
13	  	57.4%	Bulgarian 	+ 	42.6%	South_Polish 	@ 	1.81
14	  	76.1%	Romanian 	+ 	23.9%	East_Finnish 	@ 	1.81
15	  	64.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	35.6%	Italian_Abruzzo 	@ 	1.82
16	  	56.3%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	43.7%	Italian_Abruzzo 	@ 	1.83
17	  	67.1%	South_Polish 	+ 	32.9%	East_Sicilian 	@ 	1.84
18	  	68.9%	Romanian 	+ 	31.1%	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	@ 	1.85
19	  	64.2%	Romanian 	+ 	35.8%	Ukrainian 	@ 	1.88
20	  	79.6%	Serbian 	+ 	20.4%	Southwest_Russian 	@ 	1.88

Mother
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	Baltic 	42.7
2 	North_Atlantic 	23.89
3 	West_Med 	14.58
4 	East_Med 	10.59
5 	West_Asian 	3.79
6 	South_Asian 	2.03
7 	Amerindian 	1.6
8 	Siberian 	0.38
9 	Red_Sea 	0.33
10 	Northeast_African 	0.1

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Ukrainian 	6.51
2 	Ukrainian_Lviv 	7.01
3 	Croatian 	7.71
4 	South_Polish 	8.31
5 	Southwest_Russian 	8.81
6 	Polish 	9.56
7 	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	9.82
8 	Moldavian 	9.85
9 	Estonian_Polish 	10.14
10 	Russian_Smolensk 	10.41
11 	Belorussian 	11.24
12 	Hungarian 	12.83
13 	Kargopol_Russian 	13.1
14 	Erzya 	14.62
15 	Lithuanian 	14.97
16 	East_German 	15.56
17 	Serbian 	15.7
18 	Estonian 	15.7
19 	Austrian 	16.75
20 	Southwest_Finnish 	17.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	86.6%	Southwest_Russian 	+ 	13.4%	Sardinian 	@ 	4.01
2	  	75.6%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	24.4%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	4.47
3	  	66.4%	Lithuanian 	+ 	33.6%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	4.56
4	  	82.9%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	17.1%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	4.56
5	  	75.6%	Lithuanian 	+ 	24.4%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	4.66
6	  	84.9%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	15.1%	Sardinian 	@ 	4.72
7	  	68.6%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	31.4%	Bulgarian 	@ 	4.73
8	  	81.6%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	18.4%	South_Italian 	@ 	4.77
9	  	80.5%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	19.5%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	4.79
10	  	83.2%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	16.8%	Italian_Jewish 	@ 	4.83
11	  	79.9%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	20.1%	Central_Greek 	@ 	4.84
12	  	80.4%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	19.6%	East_Sicilian 	@ 	4.86
13	  	85.6%	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	+ 	14.4%	Sardinian 	@ 	4.91
14	  	80.3%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	19.7%	West_Sicilian 	@ 	4.93
15	  	58.1%	Lithuanian 	+ 	41.9%	Bulgarian 	@ 	4.99
16	  	72.3%	Lithuanian 	+ 	27.7%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	5
17	  	73.8%	Lithuanian 	+ 	26.2%	South_Italian 	@ 	5
18	  	91.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	8.6%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	5.01
19	  	75.9%	Lithuanian 	+ 	24.1%	Italian_Jewish 	@ 	5.03
20	  	89.9%	Ukrainian 	+ 	10.1%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	5.03

Daughter
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	Baltic 	39.27
2 	North_Atlantic 	25.64
3 	West_Med 	12.99
4 	East_Med 	12.03
5 	West_Asian 	4.43
6 	Red_Sea 	1.63
7 	Amerindian 	1.2
8 	South_Asian 	0.93
9 	East_Asian 	0.82
10 	Siberian 	0.53
11 	Oceanian 	0.26
12 	Sub-Saharan 	0.25

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Croatian 	5.13
2 	Ukrainian_Lviv 	6.94
3 	Ukrainian 	7.29
4 	Moldavian 	7.36
5 	South_Polish 	7.7
6 	Hungarian 	9.45
7 	Southwest_Russian 	10.03
8 	Polish 	10.24
9 	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	10.88
10 	Russian_Smolensk 	11.74
11 	Estonian_Polish 	11.76
12 	Serbian 	12.27
13 	Belorussian 	12.4
14 	East_German 	13.1
15 	Austrian 	13.81
16 	Kargopol_Russian 	14.71
17 	Romanian 	15.76
18 	Erzya 	16.44
19 	Southwest_Finnish 	16.67
20 	Estonian 	16.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	78.3%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	21.7%	Italian_Jewish 	@ 	2.28
2	  	74.4%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	25.6%	West_Sicilian 	@ 	2.38
3	  	78.3%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	21.7%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	2.39
4	  	69.1%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	30.9%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	2.4
5	  	74.9%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	25.1%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	2.52
6	  	68%	Belorussian 	+ 	32%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	2.59
7	  	71.4%	Lithuanian 	+ 	28.6%	Italian_Jewish 	@ 	2.6
8	  	66.7%	Lithuanian 	+ 	33.3%	West_Sicilian 	@ 	2.62
9	  	76.4%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	23.6%	South_Italian 	@ 	2.62
10	  	71.4%	Lithuanian 	+ 	28.6%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	2.75
11	  	60.6%	Lithuanian 	+ 	39.4%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	2.77
12	  	74.8%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	25.2%	East_Sicilian 	@ 	2.77
13	  	77.5%	Belorussian 	+ 	22.5%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	2.79
14	  	60.1%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	39.9%	Bulgarian 	@ 	2.83
15	  	78.6%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	21.4%	Sephardic_Jewish 	@ 	2.85
16	  	74.3%	Estonian_Polish 	+ 	25.7%	Central_Greek 	@ 	2.88
17	  	83.7%	Ukrainian 	+ 	16.3%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	2.91
18	  	73.5%	Belorussian 	+ 	26.5%	West_Sicilian 	@ 	2.92
19	  	67.3%	Lithuanian 	+ 	32.7%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	2.93
20	  	75.5%	Belorussian 	+ 	24.5%	South_Italian 	@ 	2.98

K15

Father
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	Baltic 	20.58
2 	Atlantic 	16.76
3 	North_Sea 	16.55
4 	Eastern_Euro 	13.24
5 	East_Med 	9.79
6 	West_Asian 	9.7
7 	West_Med 	9.36
8 	Red_Sea 	1.93
9 	Siberian 	1.18
10 	Southeast_Asian 	0.41
11 	Northeast_African 	0.41
12 	Amerindian 	0.1

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Moldavian 	4.84
2 	Croatian 	5.3
3 	Serbian 	6.21
4 	Romanian 	6.99
5 	Hungarian 	7.74
6 	Austrian 	7.89
7 	Bulgarian 	9.26
8 	Ukrainian_Lviv 	11.21
9 	South_Polish 	11.34
10 	Ukrainian 	12.23
11 	East_German 	12.24
12 	Russian_Smolensk 	13.92
13 	Polish 	13.96
14 	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	14.06
15 	Southwest_Russian 	14.69
16 	Belorussian 	16.36
17 	Estonian_Polish 	16.52
18 	Southwest_Finnish 	17.53
19 	Greek_Thessaly 	17.59
20 	Kargopol_Russian 	17.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	66.9%	Romanian 	+ 	33.1%	Russian_Smolensk 	@ 	1.43
2	  	70.6%	Romanian 	+ 	29.4%	Belorussian 	@ 	1.66
3	  	68.3%	Romanian 	+ 	31.7%	Southwest_Russian 	@ 	1.67
4	  	70.8%	Romanian 	+ 	29.2%	Estonian_Polish 	@ 	1.74
5	  	67.3%	Romanian 	+ 	32.7%	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	@ 	1.75
6	  	86.7%	Croatian 	+ 	13.3%	Turkish 	@ 	1.77
7	  	89.2%	Croatian 	+ 	10.8%	Georgian_Jewish 	@ 	1.93
8	  	74.7%	Romanian 	+ 	25.3%	Lithuanian 	@ 	1.98
9	  	89.3%	Croatian 	+ 	10.7%	Assyrian 	@ 	1.98
10	  	89.3%	Croatian 	+ 	10.7%	Armenian 	@ 	2.07
11	  	55.3%	Bulgarian 	+ 	44.7%	South_Polish 	@ 	2.07
12	  	67.4%	Romanian 	+ 	32.6%	Polish 	@ 	2.11
13	  	87.9%	Croatian 	+ 	12.1%	Azeri 	@ 	2.14
14	  	62.6%	Romanian 	+ 	37.4%	South_Polish 	@ 	2.14
15	  	90%	Croatian 	+ 	10%	Kurdish_Jewish 	@ 	2.16
16	  	89.8%	Croatian 	+ 	10.2%	Iranian_Jewish 	@ 	2.18
17	  	88.7%	Croatian 	+ 	11.3%	Lebanese_Muslim 	@ 	2.19
18	  	67.7%	Bulgarian 	+ 	32.3%	Estonian 	@ 	2.2
19	  	60.5%	Bulgarian 	+ 	39.5%	Polish 	@ 	2.2
20	  	89.1%	Croatian 	+ 	10.9%	Kurdish 	@ 	2.31

Mother
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	Baltic 	27.4
2 	North_Sea 	19.86
3 	Eastern_Euro 	19.06
4 	Atlantic 	11.53
5 	West_Med 	10.65
6 	East_Med 	5.78
7 	West_Asian 	3.62
8 	South_Asian 	1.11
9 	Amerindian 	0.81
10 	Red_Sea 	0.1
11 	Northeast_African 	0.08

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Ukrainian 	4.89
2 	Ukrainian_Lviv 	5.35
3 	South_Polish 	6.81
4 	Croatian 	8.01
5 	Moldavian 	8.22
6 	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	8.68
7 	Polish 	8.69
8 	Southwest_Russian 	8.79
9 	Russian_Smolensk 	9.19
10 	Estonian_Polish 	10.07
11 	Belorussian 	10.21
12 	Hungarian 	10.72
13 	Kargopol_Russian 	12.15
14 	Estonian 	12.4
15 	Lithuanian 	12.43
16 	Erzya 	13.33
17 	Austrian 	14.07
18 	East_German 	14.48
19 	East_Finnish 	14.74
20 	Serbian 	14.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	94%	Ukrainian 	+ 	6%	Cyprian 	@ 	3.95
2	  	94.6%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5.4%	Samaritan 	@ 	3.97
3	  	94.8%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5.2%	Lebanese_Christian 	@ 	4.02
4	  	90.6%	Ukrainian 	+ 	9.4%	Greek 	@ 	4.04
5	  	90.2%	Ukrainian 	+ 	9.8%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	4.05
6	  	93.6%	Ukrainian 	+ 	6.4%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	4.06
7	  	94%	Ukrainian 	+ 	6%	Libyan_Jewish 	@ 	4.06
8	  	94.5%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5.5%	Sardinian 	@ 	4.06
9	  	95%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5%	Lebanese_Druze 	@ 	4.1
10	  	95%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5%	Palestinian 	@ 	4.16
11	  	92.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	7.6%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	4.16
12	  	93.8%	Ukrainian 	+ 	6.2%	Italian_Jewish 	@ 	4.16
13	  	94.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5.6%	Tunisian_Jewish 	@ 	4.16
14	  	93.3%	Ukrainian 	+ 	6.7%	South_Italian 	@ 	4.17
15	  	94.9%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5.1%	Jordanian 	@ 	4.18
16	  	92.6%	Ukrainian 	+ 	7.4%	Central_Greek 	@ 	4.18
17	  	94.8%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5.2%	Syrian 	@ 	4.18
18	  	94.8%	Ukrainian 	+ 	5.2%	Lebanese_Muslim 	@ 	4.19
19	  	95.3%	Ukrainian 	+ 	4.7%	Kurdish_Jewish 	@ 	4.19
20	  	95.3%	Ukrainian 	+ 	4.7%	Iranian_Jewish 	@ 	4.21

Daughter
Admix Results (sorted):

#	Population	Percent
1 	Baltic 	23.61
2 	North_Sea 	20.82
3 	Eastern_Euro 	17.8
4 	Atlantic 	13.45
5 	West_Med 	9.04
6 	East_Med 	7.47
7 	West_Asian 	4.39
8 	Red_Sea 	1.57
9 	Amerindian 	0.73
10 	South_Asian 	0.47
11 	Southeast_Asian 	0.37
12 	Oceanian 	0.23
13 	Sub-Saharan 	0.06

Single Population Sharing:

#	Population (source)	Distance
1 	Croatian 	5.31
2 	Ukrainian_Lviv 	5.41
3 	Moldavian 	5.48
4 	Ukrainian 	5.66
5 	South_Polish 	6.37
6 	Hungarian 	7.01
7 	Polish 	8.74
8 	Ukrainian_Belgorod 	9.69
9 	Southwest_Russian 	9.82
10 	Russian_Smolensk 	9.88
11 	Austrian 	10.44
12 	Serbian 	11.06
13 	Belorussian 	11.4
14 	East_German 	11.44
15 	Estonian_Polish 	11.46
16 	Kargopol_Russian 	12.74
17 	Estonian 	12.9
18 	Finnish 	13.45
19 	Romanian 	13.69
20 	East_Finnish 	13.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#	 	Primary Population (source) 	Secondary Population (source) 	Distance
1	  	88.2%	Ukrainian 	+ 	11.8%	Libyan_Jewish 	@ 	1.77
2	  	87.1%	Ukrainian 	+ 	12.9%	Italian_Jewish 	@ 	1.78
3	  	87.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	12.6%	Algerian_Jewish 	@ 	1.82
4	  	84.2%	Ukrainian 	+ 	15.8%	Ashkenazi 	@ 	1.9
5	  	87.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	12.6%	Sephardic_Jewish 	@ 	1.92
6	  	89.9%	Ukrainian 	+ 	10.1%	Samaritan 	@ 	1.93
7	  	88.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	11.6%	Tunisian_Jewish 	@ 	1.94
8	  	88.9%	Ukrainian 	+ 	11.1%	Cyprian 	@ 	2
9	  	90.2%	Ukrainian 	+ 	9.8%	Lebanese_Christian 	@ 	2
10	  	90.2%	Ukrainian 	+ 	9.8%	Lebanese_Druze 	@ 	2.08
11	  	89.9%	Ukrainian 	+ 	10.1%	Palestinian 	@ 	2.11
12	  	85.3%	Ukrainian 	+ 	14.7%	East_Sicilian 	@ 	2.21
13	  	85%	Ukrainian 	+ 	15%	Central_Greek 	@ 	2.22
14	  	85.2%	Ukrainian 	+ 	14.8%	West_Sicilian 	@ 	2.23
15	  	86.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	13.6%	South_Italian 	@ 	2.26
16	  	81.5%	Ukrainian 	+ 	18.5%	Greek_Thessaly 	@ 	2.26
17	  	89.7%	Ukrainian 	+ 	10.3%	Jordanian 	@ 	2.29
18	  	89.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	10.6%	Lebanese_Muslim 	@ 	2.32
19	  	89.4%	Ukrainian 	+ 	10.6%	Syrian 	@ 	2.36
20	  	84.8%	Ukrainian 	+ 	15.2%	Italian_Abruzzo 	@ 	2.4

The father is R-M512, the mother is H5

[vbnetkhio]

64.2% Romanian + 35.8% Ukrainian @

even i get a little bit more Baltic that the Father. could he be a Hutsul?

[Leto]

even i get a little bit more Baltic that the Father. could he be a Hutsul?

His last name sounds Polish. I can PM you their numbers and email. I agree they are pretty Southern, barely close to us.

By the way, are you 32% Baltic?

[Pribislav]

Bunjevci have nothing in common with original čakavian Croats, or with kaykavian ones who are Slovenes in denial, except Roman Catholic religion.

Until 100 years ago chakavian and kaykavian Croatians discriminated Bunjevci and called them "Catholic Vlachs."
Even today Fetivi from the coast and Boduli islanders call Bunjevci from Dalmatian hinterland "Vlaji."

[vbnetkhio]

Central Croat? Looks like they're NW Croat based on that map. When I think of Central Croatia, I think of Kordun and Banija.

yes, you are right, the areas north of Zagreb are usually called NW, and Sisak central i believe. i'm not sure about Bjelovar, maybe Feiichy knows.

[Jana]

Central Croat? Looks like they're NW Croat based on that map. When I think of Central Croatia, I think of Kordun and Banija.

Sisak is heart of Central Croatia.
Kordun and Banija are very lowly populated regions. Bjelovar is also considered central Croatia, Međimurje not.