White Serb/Sorb gedmatch result!

[Jana]

there was probably a second White Serbia in Ukraine too, since it's mentioned that Hungarians passed through Serbia before coming to Pannonia.
A common match of me and the Sorb is a Rusyn with the surname "Boika". maybe it's connected with the alternate name of White Serbia "Boiki".

Nobody heard about it.
Boiki is related to Celtic tribe of Boii in Czech Republic.

Information about White Serbia/White Serbs is extremely scarce in comparison with White Croatia, nobody even mantions it except DAI.

[vbnetkhio]

Nobody heard about it.
Boiki is related to Celtic tribe of Boii in Czech Republic.

That's one of the theories. But Boii were long gone when Serbs came to that area, i think the theory is actually that "Boiki" was a distorted version of "Boiohaemia". And Serbs didn't settle exactly in Bohemia, but near it.

On the other hand, among east Slavs many words similar to Boiki exist, in Russian бойкий means "smart, quick or brisk" from which comes the nickname and surname "Boiko". Also, in Belarusian mythology , Boiko was one of the forefathers of Slavs, from whom 24 tribes originated.

Information about White Serbia/White Serbs is extremely scarce in comparison with White Croatia, nobody even mantions it except DAI.

"The position of northern Serbia seems to have been known to another
Latin author (Frederick I, patriarch of Aquileia) since the beginning of the 10th century. Namely, in the
document written between ca. 900 and 921, it is said that the
Hungarians moved to Pannonia from Serbia (Ungarorum gens a Servia
egressa in Pannoniam)."

[Dick]

in the year 517 Slavs(Antae,Sclaveni) started invading Byzantium from the direction of modern day Romania. Serbs and Croats come around 100 later (yellow arrow)


i2a and r1a subclades which are found both in eastern and western Balkans are probably from these earlier Slavs.

Who were there when they arrived? What happened to the scordisci the Goths, the supposedly pure paleo Balkan thracians etc

[War Chef]

"Bojan" is also a very popular Yugoslav name. Probably just coincidence though and not related to the Boii tribe

Who were there when they arrived? What happened to the scordisci the Goths, the supposedly pure paleo Balkan thracians etc

Balkans got hugely depopulated by Justinian's Plague. We're talking once thriving metropolitan areas now completely empty and +50% people dead in a very short time. Slavs filled the power vacuum.

By the way I don't believe Yugoslavs came from the east, most of them came from southern Poland through this place, a narrow passage between Alps and Carpathians.

[Lucas]

Who were there when they arrived? What happened to the scordisci the Goths, the supposedly pure paleo Balkan thracians etc

About half of you is from them. They are living still.

[vbnetkhio]

Who were there when they arrived? What happened to the scordisci the Goths, the supposedly pure paleo Balkan thracians etc

Scordisci and Thracians were Romanised and Hellenized, so they were Greeks and Vlachs when Slavs arrived.

Goths left a pretty strong genetic influence imo, there is a lot of i1 and North Sea admixture all over the Balkans, even in more isolated areas. i think they refuged in the mountains from Avar invasions and the Justinian plague, and somehow assimilated into Vlachs and Albanians.

[Dick]

About half of you is from them. They are living still.

Luk

[Dick]

Scordisci and Thracians were Romanised and Hellenized, so they were Greeks and Vlachs when Slavs arrived.

Goths left a pretty strong genetic influence imo, there is a lot of i1 and North Sea admixture all over the Balkans, even in more isolated areas. i think they refuged in the mountains from Avar invasions and the Justinian plague, and somehow assimilated into Vlachs and Albanians.

That’s why I meant. The population was already mutty before slavs and not paleo Balkan

[vbnetkhio]

"Bojan" is also a very popular Yugoslav name. Probably just coincidence though and not related to the Boii tribe



Balkans got hugely depopulated by Justinian's Plague. We're talking once thriving metropolitan areas now completely empty and +50% people dead in a very short time. Slavs filled the power vacuum.

By the way I don't believe Yugoslavs came from the east, most of them came from southern Poland through this place, a narrow passage between Alps and Carpathians.

there were Slavs coming from both directions. read this article:

http://macedonia.kroraina.com/en/zvwas/zvwas_2.htm

One of the best-known finds on the territory of northern Yugoslavia, indicating links between the Baltic Slavs and the western Ukraine, are silver jewels from a prince's tomb at Čadjavica (seventh century).

[vbnetkhio]

The population was already mutty before slavs and not paleo Balkan

yes.