South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

[Carpatz]

I only checked the claim that "Poles, Ukrainians" have been in N. Moldova before Vlachs.

I don't think Aeduard or anyone here has denied the impact Slavs had on Romanian genetics. What do you think of his claim that 1/3 of Suceava county in the present day is made up of Ukrainian, Polish, Russian minorities?

[Coastal Elite]

I have plenty of good things to say about our people. I do not like posts that throw away our Slavic ancestry nor do I like the ones that throw away our Thracian/Dacian/Vlach one. Both are clearly visible.

Now if there's another thing I don't like, that's Romanboos and bored ppl with Decebal avatars that subscribe to Slavic pages just to comment under Romanian posts *Romanians aren't Slavic*.

Delusion helps noone and I am extremely interested in seeing the evolution of our people across the times. Unfortunately Romanians have some of the poorest ancient samples and we need to revolve around some strange Scythian ones, BGR_IA, HRV_IA, STR_300, all of them preceding or barely showing proper ancestry to Romania.

I also have threads of how Romanians look in my opinion, you can check them in the Romania section. Nothing cherry-picked, no half blonde ppl, not half turkish ones, no football players.

Fair enough. I have have no issue with Slavic people or their admixture with Romanians, I’ve just seem too many non-Romanians people claiming to be Romanian on TA just to make Romania look bad. Nurzat saying shit like “ we Romanians like to play with our own poop” . I don’t mind someone criticizing Romania, it’s not perfect, but sometimes there is an obvious anti-Romanian agenda.

[Jana]

Romanians are still more Dacian than Slavic on average. And Roman input isn't insignificant either.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Fair enough. I have have no issue with Slavic people or their admixture with Romanians, I’ve just seem too many non-Romanians people claiming to be Romanian on TA just to make Romania look bad. Nurzat saying shit like “ we Romanians like to play with our own poop” . I don’t mind someone criticizing Romania, it’s not perfect, but sometimes there is an obvious anti-Romanian agenda.

Lol I'm Romanian af mate just slightly more W shifted. Even that might be MyHeritage being shit at their raw data, I'll be ordering a 23andme as well when I decide I have nothing better to do with my money.

Nurzat said he literally only has a connection to NE Romanians as if ppl south of Iasi are Egyptians or sth I don't understand why people still respond to him on these things.

Aspirin is also ashamed of his Vlach-ness but at least doesn't troll randomly and looks for actual arguments.

But Romanians larping as Romans when Serbs don't, while Romans have been in Moesia for longer is just as funny.

[Jana]

But Romanians larping as Romans when Serbs don't, while Romans have been in Moesia for longer is just as funny.

Fun fact: Serbs have less Roman input than Romanians. They also rarely score Italian on 23andme, Romanians almost always do.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

I don't think Aeduard or anyone here has denied the impact Slavs had on Romanian genetics. What do you think of his claim that 1/3 of Suceava county in the present day is made up of Ukrainian, Polish, Russian minorities?

Downplayed it, not fully denied. That 40% AV2 can't be ignored. N. Moldova was colonized by Ukrainians invited by Stephen the Great, though the number can't be estimated and they were fully absorbed as no distinct pockets remain safe for some villages.

Cantemir noted that East of the Prut the more you headed East the more ppl spoke with Polish words.

Romanians are still a Vlacho-Slavic people that is more Vlach even with that. We're not special but we need more samples to get a bette runderstanding.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Fun fact: Serbs have less Roman input than Romanians. They also rarely score Italian on 23andme, Romanians almost always do.

Samples and the K15 map has shown that Serbs are either just as Slavic or more. I've seen Greek, not Italian though, and there is proof that 23andme sometimes fucks it up, what if Italian is just more Celtic Greek admix?

[Pribislav]

@ Feiichy

Some Serbs are modeled as Polish/Ukrainian + Italian.

For example this Dalmatian Serb on K15.

1 58.7% Polish + 41.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.86

[Jana]

@ Feiichy

Some Serbs are modeled as Polish/Ukrainian + Italian.

For example this Dalmatian Serb on K15.

1 58.7% Polish + 41.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.86

Abruzzo is closer to what Thracians get.

Distance to: BGR_IA

0.03716518 Italian_Lazio
0.03973669 Italian_Molise
0.04002928 Italian_Apulia
0.04080540 Italian_Abruzzo
0.04080752 Italian_Umbria
0.04130677 Italian_Basilicata
0.04130794 Italian_Marche
0.04274486 Italian_Campania
0.04335443 French_Corsica
0.04460689 Italian_Tuscany
0.04615308 Greek_Ionia
0.04699819 Italian_Calabria
0.04720308 Sicilian_East
0.04962777 Greek
0.05043692 Sicilian_West
0.05128939 Italian_Piedmont
0.05178807 Albanian
0.05351786 Greek_Crete
0.05438078 Greek_Kos
0.05593646 Maltese
0.05629075 Swiss_Italian
0.05689945 Italian_Lombardy
0.05718129 Italian_Bergamo
0.05950644 Italian_Jew
0.06173319 Italian_Veneto

[Jana]

Samples and the K15 map has shown that Serbs are either just as Slavic or more. I've seen Greek, not Italian though, and there is proof that 23andme sometimes fucks it up, what if Italian is just more Celtic Greek admix?

Many Romanians get specific regions in south Italy (which are ancient Greek by ancestry, but not modern Greek),