Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[Jana]

I think everyone here agrees that 23andme needs to do to slovenians and nw croats what they've done do finns, give them their own category.
Then you'll see a lot of croats scoring different mixes between bosnians(serbs) and this new slovenian/nw croat group, showing how their EE on 23andme has been artificially inflated.

Unfortunately for you, it's Serbs who cluster in Central Balkans, between Croats/Bosnians and Romanians/Bulgarians, not the opposite.

According to a 2014 autosomal analysis of Western Balkan, the Croatian population shows genetic uniformity with other South Slavic populations. The Croatians and Bosnians were more close to East European populations and largely overlapped with Hungarians from Central Europe. In the 2015 analysis, they formed a western South Slavic cluster with the Bosnians and Slovenians in comparison to eastern cluster formed by Macedonians and Bulgarians with Serbians in the middle. The western cluster has an inclination toward Hungarians, Czechs, and Slovaks, while the eastern cluster toward Romanians and some extent Greeks

And this quote comes from academic study of western Balkans, unlike your fantasies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4141785/

[vbnetkhio]

Only after Bosnian Serbs which you added will be removed.

dose your father get Croat_Split as No 1 now? i think it's pretty similar to him

[Lemgrant]

Only after Bosnian Serbs which you added will be removed.

it is academic samples, why should it be removed? they will not be removed.

[Jana]

dose your father get Croat_Split as No 1 now? i think it's pretty similar to him

Yes. And it makes sense because 50% of his ancestry is from Split-Dalmatia county.

[Jana]

it is academic samples, why should it be removed? they will not be removed.

You have problems with intelligence? Serbian academic average was already removed, because it is too Romanian-like.
This average made of 4 people from northern Bosnia needs to be removed as well. It's Croat like and Serbs don't score it.

Yes it will be removed.

[Lemgrant]

Added!

If someone has good new refs for this and other calcs I will add.

for EUtest ver.1:

Karitiana_Brazil,0,18.67,0,0,0,0,0,0,11.27,0,26.28,43.78,0
Pima_Native_American,0,22.34,0,0,0,0,0,0,10.18,0,21.75,45.55,0.17
Romani_1,4.76,7.34,9.29,6.16,10,16.64,13.16,7.01,24.27,0,1.08,0,0.3
Latvian_1,40.185,25.92,16.835,12.915,3.045,0.25,0.82,0,0,0,0,0.025,0
Moroccan_Jew,0,3.47,7.43,9.16,18.83,30.8,9.17,18.3,0,1.58,0,0,1.26

Population,SOUTH_BALTIC,EAST_EURO,NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO,ATLANTIC,WEST_MED,EAST_MED,WEST_ASIAN,MIDDLE_EASTERN,SOUTH_ASIAN,EAST_AFRICAN,EAST_ASIAN,SIBERIAN,WEST_AFRICAN

[Jana]

My father results without Bosnian Serbs (I will from now on delete them from reference data)

[Leto]

Not that I care much about this tool but here is my father's MDLP K23b

Distance to: Dad
2.81780056 Russian-West
3.20206184 Belarusian-East
3.28240765 Russian-North-West
3.30342247 Russian_South
3.72048384 Belarusian_West
3.73765970 Ukrainian_East
4.08066171 Sorb
4.09450852 Don_cossack
4.28672369 Ukrainian
4.30903702 Russian_North
4.42098405 Ukrainian_Center
4.80004167 Russian_Meshtchyora
4.83626922 Kashub
5.50746766 Russian-Upper-Volga
6.54197982 Pole
6.99778536 Mordovian
7.01084874 Belarusian_South
7.12734874 Balt
7.14537613 Ukrainian_West
7.32196695 Belarusian
8.24581106 Russian_Center
8.52157262 Erzya
8.84841229 Russian_Vologda
8.98704067 Slovak
9.00239968 Belarusian_Russian

Target: Dad
Distance: 1.0661% / 1.06610812
62.0 Latvian
15.6 Kashub
13.4 Frisian
6.8 Georgian_Svan
1.0 Lithuanian
0.4 Ami_Taiwan
0.4 Dai
0.4 Eskimo_Chaplin

Will do my mom's too.

[Lemgrant]

You have problems with intelligence? Serbian academic average was already removed, because it is too Romanian-like.
This average made of 4 people from northern Bosnia needs to be removed as well. It's Croat like and Serbs don't score it.

Yes it will be removed.

Serbs like Ford (Serb from Bosnia) and Dusan are the closest to this average Serbian_Bosnia in EUtest ver.1. Deal with it. It will not be removed.

[ProudBrit]

Unfortunately for you, it's Serbs who cluster in Central Balkans, between Croats/Bosnians and Romanians/Bulgarians, not the opposite.



And this quote comes from academic study of western Balkans, unlike your fantasies.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4141785/

Its the second time i have to repeat myself: its all context dependent. If you're trying to parrot me at least have some logic.

Genetics are not enough to prove assimilation, because we can model every euro ethnicity using others, it needs to be paired with other things like language, names, traditions...
Your southern croats speak serbian, unlike slovenians and those 50%+ EE slovenized croats.

And from a historical point of view its hilarious to just think Romania and Serbia came from a fake, with no history and recent country like Croatia, with the north plotting with slovenians/czechs and south with bosnians or slightly more north, not to mention stolen cities from italians and serbs.

You would be typical serbian in genetics had it not been for your german and slovenian mixture(like your cetnik dad according to Vahaduo ), so I'd keep my head down if I were in your place.