Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[Jana]

you should have used the one from Lič too, he is the same as them.
i also found one with the surname Šegota, probably from Senj, he also had such results. the suffix -ota was typical for the pre-Slavic language of the Bunjevci
sadly his kit is lost now after the last Gedmatch fuckup.

I used one you posted I think, but not that one. I was considering him, but didn't use him in the end because he is ''officially'' from Gorski Kotar.

[Jana]

Btw I used WestCoast from Posušje as one of guys for Slavic cluster. Also Max Soldo from Livno.

[Morlak]

i mean in the k13 oracle on gedmatch?

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.42
2 Romanian 4.94
3 Bulgarian 6.37
4 Moldavian 7.25
5 Croatian 9.99
6 Hungarian 10.9
7 Austrian 13.95
8 Greek_Thessaly 15
9 East_German 15.31
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.46
11 South_Polish 17.23
12 Ukrainian 17.59
13 North_Italian 18.31
14 West_German 19.08
15 Tuscan 19.48
16 French 20.16
17 South_Dutch 20.55
18 Polish 20.78
19 Southwest_Russian 20.98
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.07

[Jana]

I hope you don't get upset but you are like those Russkies in denial aka Ukrainians that get anti-Russian to hysterical levels. just as East Slavs are one, Yugoslavs the same, are one, it's only politics and regional pride that put them apart, otherwise you wouldn't have the exact same language.

Serbs are a proud and strong nation, I think everyone would have benefited from a strong united Yugoslavia instead the tiny countries it broke into. I am not Yugo and I like the idea of a big Yugoslavia, imagine how Slovenes, Croats, Serbs, Bosnians, Montenegrins would like it too and would favour Yugoslavia, of course with Belgrade as capital.

Well no, if Yugoslavia wasn't a shithole there would be no breakup.
I usually prefer to be in company of more developed nations, not poorer more backwards ones.

And I hope you wan't be offended, but we don't like orthodox people or feel affinity with their culture. You are foreign world for us, no point to deny the obvious.
East Slavs are culturally one, South Slavs are not.

And our language is product of 19th century political agreement between south slavs. Not very relevant for history.

[vbnetkhio]

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.42

i think this avearege should be added back, as "Serb_Belgrade", because that's what they are.

[ProudBrit]

No. There is no average Dalmatian Croat. They range a lot. Because they are not of same origins. Čakavians are usually far more Slavic than Štokavians and guess what, they remained only on islands and some coastal villages. And it's quite laughable to connect medieval Croats with Serbs when Serbs couldn't even understand their language and lived deep in mountains of Raška.

They are about as connected as Germans and Swedish.

Kajkavians aren't real Croats either. They are Croatised Panonnian Slavs.
All relevant medieval Croatian remains are either in north-central Dalmatia or North Adriatic region, written on čakavian dialect.

Of course they range a lot when theyre a mix a of pannonian slavs and bosnians at different ratios, stokavians being closer to bosnians and speaking serbian.
And even if you were right(you arent) and only cakavians are real croats than pretty much most of croatians have nothing(or a large chunk )with the original south slavs, including yourself.

[nittionia]

Here is my K15 and my dad's, not sure which calculator is supposed to be the popular one
Mine:


My dad:

[Daos777]

Well no, if Yugoslavia wasn't a shithole there would be no breakup.
I usually prefer to be in company of more developed nations, not poorer more backwards ones.

And I hope you wan't be offended, but we don't like orthodox people or feel affinity with their culture. You are foreign world for us, no point to deny the obvious.
East Slavs are culturally one, South Slavs are not.

This post is pure proof of remove Croat for peace in Balkans. There is only room for Eastern Orthodox in the Balkans. Croats can move to Bavaria.

[Jana]

Orthodox Christianity is the oldest Christian tradition and isn't synonymous with Serbia at all. If any historical country should be picked, it would be the Byzantine empire. Shall I remind you that the biggest Eastern Orthodox church is Russian, not Serbian. Also I doubt you have much against Romania, Bulgaria or Greece and how they believe, don't you. So that's definitely the wrong choice of words.

We have nothing against other orthodox nations except Serbs. But when we say orthodox here we mean Serb orthodoxy.
They kept monopoly over all Orthodox Christians no matter their origins in the region for centuries.

[Nurzat]

Well no, if Yugoslavia wasn't a shithole there would be no breakup.
I usually prefer to be in company of more developed nations, not poorer more backwards ones.

And I hope you wan't be offended, but we don't like orthodox people or feel affinity with their culture. You are foreign world for us, no point to deny the obvious.
East Slavs are culturally one, South Slavs are not.

truth is we don't like Catholics either, we have a bad word that translates to something like "popists" (because you've got the Pope, which we don't accept/like).

for my community it goes further - we are old calendar Orthodox (Ruthenians and Lipovans) versus new calendar Orthodox (Romanians)