Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[ProudBrit]

Mate, learn some basics before you're gonna troll. 35-36% is their average and the average has 5 samples.

Where are they? They were all posted here before.

Dušan is 33% Baltic which is on highest end for Serbs and he isn't particulary close to them. You're going on ignore list.

I posted the one Feiichy posted as, in her own words, 'proper southern croats', he is 34.4% Baltid BUT 27% North_atlantid.

For comparision, Dusan is 34% Baltid BUT 22% North_Atlantid and so are similar many other serbs like Dick, Ford etc..

Nothing else to discuss, croats are nothing else but bosnians(serbs) admixed with medieval croatized pannonian slavs and austro-hungarian mixture often and it shows in genetics.

[Mingle]

I think Herzegovina.

If all these southern shifted South Croats originate from the Bunjevci of Herzegovina, then maybe Croat_South_Bunjevac would be a better name? Morlach is fine too, but this would be less confusing. Pribislav wasn't sure what you meant by Morlach and maybe others will have the same issue.

Regarding them being more common in Herzegovina, that makes more sense since that's geographically closer to their point of origin. I would guess them to be more common in South Dalmatia compared to places like Duvno.

[vbnetkhio]

So what's a good calculator? I see there is no mldp k16 on this toolski

i should really remove that from my signature, lol. mdlp k16 is some random 10 year old calc, i just get nice single distances in it , it doesn't make it good.

the best dna results are given by k13, 23andme, and global25 in no particualr order

[Lucas]

It should be my longest thread. Thanks to all TA Balkanite members

[Jana]

Nothing else to discuss, croats are nothing else but bosnians(serbs) admixed with medieval croatized pannonian slavs and austro-hungarian mixture often and it shows in genetics.

Native of Kaštela with confirmed origins going back centuries related with Panonnian Croats? Hahah. Fuck off Romanian retard.

[Lemgrant]

Who has the highest Baltic on TA? Mine is 39.46

Full Russians have to be at least 50% right?


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[Jana]

If all these southern shifted South Croats originate from the Bunjevci of Herzegovina, then maybe Croat_South_Bunjevac would be a better name? Morlach is fine too, but this would be less confusing. Pribislav wasn't sure what you meant by Morlach and maybe others will have the same issue.

Regarding them being more common in Herzegovina, that makes more sense since that's geographically closer to their point of origin. I would guess them to be more common in South Dalmatia compared to places like Duvno.

I am not sure, for example we have no proof that Zadar Croat has Bunjevac origins. Bunjevci are far smaller group than Pribislav makes them to be.
Most of these southern shifted Croats just have extra Vlach blood (which arrived from east in Ottoman times). But Bunjevci are counted as Vlachs itself, so it's bit confusing.

[Dick]

i should really remove that from my signature, lol. mdlp k16 is some random 10 year old calc, i just get nice single distances in it , it doesn't make it good.

the best dna results are given by k13, 23andme, and global25 in no particualr order

But 23andme v5 chip has lesser snps than others. G25 I like since there's always new ancient samples which I find more interesting than modern populations(in the future a typical Swede will be 50% SSA and R1b Ydna from Chad) but to each their own. it's an interesting hobby.

[Jana]

By the way, native Illyrians in Dalmatia had high North Atlantic. Which is exactly why this guy is modeled as Russian + North Italian (just like me)
These is Iron Age samples who plot very similary, just bit less north.

Bronze Age Dalmatian

1 North_Atlantic 36.73
2 West_Med 23.57
3 East_Med 15.67
4 Baltic 13.11
5 West_Asian 8.04
6 Red_Sea 2.87

Single Population Sharing:

1 North_Italian 6.07
2 Portuguese 6.25
3 Spanish_Extremadura 6.73
4 Spanish_Cataluna 6.9
5 Spanish_Galicia 7.37
6 Spanish_Murcia 7.51
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 7.79
8 Spanish_Valencia 7.9
9 Spanish_Andalucia 8.18
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 8.76
11 French 9.14
12 Spanish_Cantabria 10.07
13 Spanish_Aragon 11.5
14 Southwest_French 11.53
15 Tuscan 11.71
16 West_German 14.36
17 South_Dutch 14.77
18 Romanian 16.27
19 Serbian 16.71
20 Bulgarian 17.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 78.3% North_Italian + 21.7% Southwest_English @ 1.95
2 80.2% North_Italian + 19.8% West_Scottish @ 1.99
3 80.1% North_Italian + 19.9% Irish @ 2.02
4 61% North_Italian + 39% French @ 2.17
5 79.9% North_Italian + 20.1% Orcadian @ 2.31
6 78% North_Italian + 22% Southeast_English @ 2.37
7 80.6% North_Italian + 19.4% North_Dutch @ 2.52
8 72.6% North_Italian + 27.4% South_Dutch @ 2.56
9 87.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.57
10 82.3% North_Italian + 17.7% Norwegian @ 2.69
11 80.9% North_Italian + 19.1% Danish @ 2.69
12 87.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.1% Kurdish @ 2.78
13 88.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 11.2% Georgian @ 2.81
14 86.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.1% Kumyk @ 2.82
15 87.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.2% Armenian @ 2.83
16 87.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.2% Adygei @ 2.85
17 72.5% North_Italian + 27.5% West_German @ 2.86
18 85.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.5% Turkish @ 2.87
19 86.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.1% Azeri @ 2.89
20 86% Spanish_Valencia + 14% Lezgin @ 2.9

[Dušan]

Reread, i said with low north atlantid, and the sample posted few pages behind had i have no doubt you can find even with 40 among northern croats, hell given that we don't inherit exactly half and half from each gene you may even find from time to time low north_atlantic and high baltic, but it will be textbook cherrypicking.

Here it is, he has 34.4% baltic, hilarious how Dusan with his 33.8% baltic and north_atlantic score is probably far closer to what you consider 'proper southern croat' than you, your family and most croats are.

Spoiler!

Unfotunately, I get Croatian as second, instead of third, just because Serbian average is inaccurate and artificial (27% Baltic and 27% North Atlantic - no Serb has such result)

These are my results:

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 33.78
2 North_Atlantic 22.32
3 West_Med 18.56
4 East_Med 12.69
5 West_Asian 8.15
6 Siberian 1.73
7 Red_Sea 1.13
8 Oceanian 0.92
9 South_Asian 0.72

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.63
2 Croatian 6.84
3 Serbian 8.18 (real distance is closer and Serbian is 2nd. That average is outdated)
4 Romanian 10.2
5 Hungarian 10.72
6 Bulgarian 11.37
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.17
8 Ukrainian 13.2
9 South_Polish 13.63
10 Austrian 14.51
11 East_German 14.85
12 Southwest_Russian 16.47
13 Polish 16.71
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.91
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.36
16 Estonian_Polish 18.69
17 Belorussian 19.61
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.71
19 Kargopol_Russian 20.05
20 Tatar 20.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.4% Moldavian + 6.6% Sardinian @ 3.52
2 60.5% Ukrainian + 39.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.89
3 67.8% Ukrainian + 32.2% Central_Greek @ 4.09
4 54.2% Bulgarian + 45.8% Ukrainian @ 4.12
5 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.15
6 72.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 27.8% Sardinian @ 4.16
7 90.5% Moldavian + 9.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.16
8 71.1% Ukrainian + 28.9% South_Italian @ 4.17
9 84.3% Moldavian + 15.7% Bulgarian @ 4.19
10 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.23
11 68.8% Ukrainian + 31.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.23
12 62.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 37.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.24
13 95.1% Moldavian + 4.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.24
14 93.7% Moldavian + 6.3% Central_Greek @ 4.27
15 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% East_Sicilian @ 4.27
16 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% South_Italian @ 4.27
17 94% Moldavian + 6% West_Sicilian @ 4.28
18 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Cyprian @ 4.29
19 95.9% Moldavian + 4.1% Tunisian @ 4.29
20 96% Moldavian + 4% Moroccan @ 4.3