Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[ProudBrit]

Native of Kaštela with confirmed origins going back centuries related with Panonnian Croats? Hahah. Fuck off Romanian retard.

You'd have 1,048,576 ancestors just 20 generations ago.Are you sure that he managed to trace all of them or atleast most?You seem very sure of this.

Genetics >>> Paper trail/family stories/legends

You've said it yourself, genetics above everything

[Pribislav]

I am not sure, for example we have no proof that Zadar Croat has Bunjevac origins. Bunjevci are far smaller group than Pribislav makes them to be.
Most of these southern shifted Croats just have extra Vlach blood (which arrived from east in Ottoman times). But Bunjevci are counted as Vlachs itself, so it's bit confusing.

Bunjevci are - Herzegovinian Croatians + Livno, Kupres and Duvno ones / Croatians from Dalmatian hinterland / Croatians around Senj and some from Gorski Kotar /most of Lika Croatians / some Croatians from Kordun and Banija / vast majority of Croatians from Bačka.

[Dick]

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[Jana]

You'd have 1,048,576 ancestors just 20 generations ago.Are you sure that he managed to trace all of them or atleast most?You seem very sure of this.

You've said it yourself, genetics above everything

Yes he did, because his ancestors live in this coastal town for centuries, where civilisation was and people were actually literate and made records about their origins.
When you present genealogical proofs for your Vlach brethen who usually don't know who their ancestors were less than 3 generations ago, than we will discuss.

hardly my ancestors could participate in the movements caused by the Turkish breakthrough. written records of my ancestors have existed since the beginning of the 16th century and even during this period my ancestors were also juspatrons of Kastela's benefits. they could hardly have been some fresh refugees.

[Jana]

Feiichy has high North Atlantic score. This might be from Vlachs in her!

For sure, native Dalmatians had high North Atlantic. But ''eastern Vlachs'' did not.

[Jana]

Bunjevci are - Herzegovinian Croatians + Livno, Kupres and Duvno ones / Croatians from Dalmatian hinterland / Croatians around Senj and some from Gorski Kotar /most of Lika Croatians / some Croatians from Kordun and Banija / vast majority of Croatians from Bačka.

I don't know, I have one ancestor from around Drniš and their surname has no connections with Herzegovina or Bunjevci. It doesn't exist there.

[ProudBrit]

Yes he did, because his ancestors live in this coastal town for centuries, where civilisation was and people were actually literate and made records about their origins.
When you present genealogical proofs for your Vlach brethen who usually don't know who their ancestors were less than 3 generations ago, than we will discuss.

I only talk numbers, unless he has tracked most of them to the date he claims to then its irrelevant.
I doubt he tracked even 0.0001% of them if we're talking about 16th century he said, let alone further down.

[Jana]

I only talk numbers, unless he has tracked most of them to the date he claims to then its irrelevant.
I doubt he tracked even 0.0001% of them if we're talking about 16th century he said, let alone further down.

Irrelevant. This is how native Dalmatians without recent Ottoman Vlach influence score.
They are highly Slavic and their results look nothing like mix of Serbian and Slovenian ones.

But I unerstand your frustration. You are close to them. Maybe some Dalmatian visited your mom few decades ago?

[Mingle]

It should be my longest thread. Thanks to all TA Balkanite members

By the way, there's a lack of Polish regional averages on Vahaduo. Can you have them uploaded? There are a lot of Polish regions and I'm sure you probably have averages for most of them. K13 only has 2-3 Polish averages right now.

Also, please give the sample size for each regional averages if you can.

[ProudBrit]

Irrelevant. This is how native Dalmatians without recent Ottoman Vlach influence score.

You can't say irrelevant when I just mathematically proved you are wrong, that's like me saying 1+1 = 2 and you saying its irrelevant and the answer is 3.

They are highly Slavic and their results look nothing like mix of Serbian and Slovenian ones.

They score identical to bosnians(serbs) and given how rare percentage wise these 'highly slavic' croats are, i'd have a much higher chance to seek original south slavic blood among bosnians and serbs than among croats.

But I unerstand your frustration. You are close to them. Maybe some Dalmatian visited your mom few decades ago?

No, seems that Ford's cousins visited yours 28 years ago tho