Gedmatch calculators on Vahaduo

[Pribislav]

Well, their surname isn't present in Herzegovina or among Bunjevci. And I am not suprised for that Serb. All Aralice are smart and educated.

Serbian surnames in village Turjanski near Vrhovine (Lika) in 1915: Agbaba, Aralica, Božičković, Bobić, Božić, Brakus, Đurčić, Divjak, Grozdanić, Hinić, Hrkalović, Ivančević, Krajnović, Lukić, Mandić, Mašić, Mirković, Narančić, Skendžić, Stojanović, Svilar, Vuksan.

I suppose they arrived to Lika in 16th or 17th century, as vast majority Lika Serbs.

[Mingle]

Morlachs are mentioned as Romance speakers between 12-14 century. After that they were slavicized.

Can you give a citation/quote on that? I haven't heard of Romance speakers in the Dinarics from that recently. Even Fortis, who claims that Morlachs have Romance/Vlach origins, states that they only speak Slavic.

[andre]

Can you give a citation/quote on that? I haven't heard of Romance speakers in the Dinarics from that recently. Even Fortis, who claims that Morlachs have Romance/Vlach origins, states that they only speak Slavic.

please don't throw wood on the fire

[Pribislav]

Can you give a citation/quote on that? I haven't heard of Romance speakers in the Dinarics from that recently. Even Fortis, who claims that Morlachs have Romance/Vlach origins, states that they only speak Slavic.

Serbian and Croatian standard are based on speech of people who were derogatory marked as "Morlachs" by Venetians, of couse never existed people who call themselves like that.

[Dick]

Can you give a citation/quote on that? I haven't heard of Romance speakers in the Dinarics from that recently. Even Fortis, who claims that Morlachs have Romance/Vlach origins, states that they only speak Slavic.

Serbs have a lot of I2-Din which is from Slav invaders though

[Pribislav]

Serbs have a lot of I2-Din which is from Slav invaders though

Orthodox and Catholic Serbs who were marked by Venetians as "Morlachs" have a lot I2-Din. Dalmatian Serbs are 45% I2-Din.


Stojan Janković was born in Žegar, he was known as leader of "Morlachs"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stojan_Janković
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlac...an_irregulars)

On Serbian dna project there are 8-9 tested Serbs from Žegar (with different surnames) and all are I2-PH908.

[Jana]

Orthodox and Catholic Serbs who were marked by Venetians as "Morlachs" have a lot I2-Din. Dalmatian Serbs are 45% I2-Din.


Stojan Janković was born in Žegar, he was known as leader of "Morlachs"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stojan_Janković
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlac...an_irregulars)

On Serbian dna project there are 8-9 tested Serbs from Žegar (with different surnames) and all are I2-PH908.

Croats from my and insuperable 23andme samples are rounded at 45% I2-din, and 30% R1a. Haha.

[Jana]

Can you give a citation/quote on that? I haven't heard of Romance speakers in the Dinarics from that recently. Even Fortis, who claims that Morlachs have Romance/Vlach origins, states that they only speak Slavic.

The term was initially used for a Vlach pastoralist community in the mountains of Croatia in the second half of the 14th until the early 16th century. Later, when the community straddled the Venetian–Ottoman border in the 17th century, it referred to Slavic-speaking, mainly Eastern Orthodox, and to a lesser degree Roman Catholic people.

The etymology of the exonym points to a connection with Vlachs, but as stated in Fortis' work Travels in Dalmatia, they were at that time Slavic-speaking. Because of migrations from various parts of the Balkans, the name had passed to later communities.

[Jana]

That's a sample from Bronze Age, the natives since then were clapped by dozens of populations.Its statistically impossible for you to have any portion of your DNA significantly from them, let alone half.

You don't want to understand that you can't model balkanites with 2 populations, let alone using ancient ones, you need like 30-50% medieval slav + dozens other populations.(mostly from early middle ages, with some from ancient period), you are yourself a mix of a dozen different ethnicities that you know of.

Iron Age sample (Illyrian proper) is not very different, just less NW and right at Bergamo average. It's identical to early Republican Romans/Italics apart from haplogroups.

[Dick]

Orthodox and Catholic Serbs who were marked by Venetians as "Morlachs" have a lot I2-Din. Dalmatian Serbs are 45% I2-Din.


Stojan Janković was born in Žegar, he was known as leader of "Morlachs"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stojan_Janković
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlac...an_irregulars)

On Serbian dna project there are 8-9 tested Serbs from Žegar (with different surnames) and all are I2-PH908.

Fortis spotted the physical difference between Morlachs; those from around Kotor, Sinj and Knin were generally blond-haired, with blue eyes, and broad faces, while those around Zadvarje and Vrgorac were generally brown-haired with narrow faces. They also differed in nature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlachs

my father is the blue eyed broad face "Morlach" type then